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To: greenspirit who wrote (694)4/3/1999 12:51:00 PM
From: The Street  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 765
 
Thank you for saving me the time to have to write that post.

Clinton is an embarrassment....



To: greenspirit who wrote (694)4/3/1999 4:29:00 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Respond to of 765
 
Michael,

Gustave also forgot to mention that Reagan and David Stockman also proposed a 25% budget decrease to match that 25% tax cut he instituted. The fact that the democratically controlled congress categorically rejected the budget cut portion of the plan resulted in much of the budget deficit.

As for the conflict spreading throughout the Balkans, I don't subscribe to the belief that this possibility is overestimated. Greece and Turkey have been close to coming to blows without the Serbian problem. Now there exists a fear that the repression of muslim people in the balkans by Serbia could be the match that touches off an already sensitive timebomb.

As for the Chinese gaining access to US nuclear secrets, while not unstating the substance of what they gained, I suggest that is what the game of espionage is all about. They do it to us. We do it to them (when they have something worth stealing). And somewhere in the mix the balance of power is preserved for all sides.

China gaining MIRV technology is significant, but it certainly is not something that we should be freaking out about. After all, we've had it for years and we still retain the same retaliatory capacity as we had against the Russians (who also stole our technology).

Were the tables reversed, we'd all be applauding our intelligence services on a job well done. The Chinese issue, while exposing serious security faults in our national laboratories, is IMO nothing more than a ploy to gain political capital for the Republicans and to rightfully shame the current administration for their irresponsible involvement and exposure to Chinese intelligence operatives.

Regards,

Ron




To: greenspirit who wrote (694)4/4/1999 12:03:00 AM
From: Impristine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 765
 
fear,
beer,
stick it in your ear,
i hate
fear,
fear
is for those,
who are waiting to die,
fear
is for the people,
who are dead,
and can't see,
who are dead,
and can't taste,
who are dead,
and can't hear,
wake the hell up,
man,
you're not friggin dead,
you're not friggin dead,
man,
wake the hell up,
and live,
stop being afraid....



To: greenspirit who wrote (694)4/4/1999 12:31:00 AM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 765
 
You did a good job, Michael. However, someone who believes that Clinton has much of a foreign policy is so off base, it is hard to know what to say. Similarly, it is hard to know what to say to rrman when he rants about the domination of the United States, under whose boot the defeated nations of Germany and Japan have---- flourished? and whose evil has so overcome the planet that America is the favored destination for immigrants legal and illegal. Under the hateful regimes of Reagan and Thatcher, more nations became free and more or less democratic than at any point in history. It turned out that socialism, not capitalism, sunk under the weight of its own contradictions, and that the "third way" of the Asian Tigers was pretty much a bust. The Cold War was won, although the chattering classes mostly predicted that Reagan would cause a breath- taking deterioration in relations with the Soviet Union, and the Gulf War was brief, even though numerous Democrats predicted that Americans would fill thousands of body bags. Now, Gustave's great president has launched an attack that has hastened the humanitarian catastrophe that he was supposed to prevent, and Clinton has obviously lied when he claims to have anticipated that result, since there are no adequate provisions in place to deal with the refugee crisis. He has furthermore undone years of diplomacy with the Russians by ignoring their concerns in Serbia, and he has apparently ignored the counsel of his military advisors, and is unprepared for the failure of the air campaign. He is on the verge of dissipating whatever credibility NATO may have had, and has created the destabilizing conditions that we were to have prevented. What a great president!What, a great president?!