SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Pastimes : Kosovo -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: James R. Barrett who wrote (1313)4/3/1999 3:09:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
Another non conventional article, if I keep this up I expect a visit from a friendly Secret Service, CIA or FBI agent<g>

Ultimatums ... the New Diplomacy?

Ultimatums ... the New Diplomacy By William Dorich Before the outbreak
of WWI, the Austrian Empire gave the Serbs an ultimatum. The
Serbs thumbed their nose and Austria bombed Belgrade the city captured
by the Axis powers. In 1918 the Serbs retook Belgrade. In 1941,
Hitler gave Serbia an ultimatum, too. The Serbs answered by declaring
war on Nazi Germany. Hitler retaliated by bombing the 'open city' of
Belgrade on Palm Sunday, April 6, 1941, killing 17,000 Serbs in one day.
During WWII Serbian villages were bombed by both the British and
the American forces knowing that there were no Germans in those
villages. In spite of this selective bombing to appease Tito's
Partisans, the
Serbian guerilla movement saved the lives of 500 American airmen downed
over occupied Yugoslav territory, the single largest rescue of
troops from behind enemy lines in American history. General Draza
Mihailovich received the Legion of Merit by an act of Congress in 1942.
Serbs knew Hitler would bomb them on Palm Sunday in 1941, they also know
that Clinton will kill Serbs this Easter to save face because his
foreign policy is bankrupted. Senator Biden, a rabid Serbophobe who has
no conscience in calling Serbs, "illiterates, degenerates, rapists and
baby killers," (CNN August 1, 1993) preached war today on the floor of
the Senate, yet this is the same Senator who came to office in the
year that Turkey invaded the Greek island of Cyprus and he has sat on
his hands ever since. Biden conveniently ignores the 34,000 Kurds
killed by our NATO ally, Turkey, the 60,000 Muslims killed in Algeria
and the 100,000 non-Muslims killed in the Sudan. His robust words of
war are a mockery of democratic ideals. In 1995, President Clinton
knowingly supported a concocted marketplace bombing in Sarajevo in
which the Bosnian Muslims slaughtered their own people in order to draw
in NATO who then dropped 6,000 tons on bombs on the Serbs.
NATO (read Americans) targeted Serbian civilians. A Serbian church,
school, hospital, 70 Serbian farm houses, six bridges, 7 water storage
facilities and 10 Serb apartment buildings were leveled. The
overwhelming majority of these structures were miles from the nearest
military
instillation. Are we now to believe that our missiles are that
inaccurate after General Schwarzkopf showed us how accurate they were in
Iraq?
President Johnson resorted to the Gulf of Tonkin lie that cost us 50,000
American lives. Clinton has resorted to one lie after another including
his lies about Kosovo that defend Albanian terrorists who have taken the
lives of 187 Serbian policeman and 820 innocent Serbian civilians. Of
the 300,000 Kosovo refugees, 100,000 are Serbs. That represents 45% of
the 230,000 Serbian minority of Kosovo. The remaining 200,000
Albanian refugees represents 11% of the alleged 1.8 million Albanians in
Kosovo. It is rather obvious who is getting the brunt of this 'ethnic
cleansing.' The targets of these Albanian terrorists are Serbian homes
knowing full well that selecting those targets brings the full force of
Serbian police and the Serbian army and rightfully so. In August of
1993, the Israeli army gave the Lebanese 5 hours notice before leveling
42
Lebanese villages, killing 150 victims and ethnically cleansing 230,000.
Israel claimed "they were ridding themselves of terrorists cells." But
Serbs who wish to rid themselves of Albanian terrorists cells and
thousands of foreign mercenaries are condemned by the west instead of
coming to their aid. These terrorists are financed by Albanian drug
lords who supply Europe with most of the drugs and prostitution.
Madeleine
Albright said clearly last week "if the Albanians do not sign this peace
treaty we will cut their supply lines." In other words the United States
has
turned a blind eye to Muslim mercenaries and the weapons flowing into
Kosovo from Albania. That is an act of war and sanctions should be
placed against Albanian immediately. In WWI the Serbs lost 52% of their
adult male population and provided the first victory in that war at
Cer, Serbia. As American allies in WWII, the Serbs lost 1.5 million
victims to Albanian, Muslim and Croatian Nazis. The Serbs were praised
for their military putsch in Belgrade on March 27, 1941 in the early
months of the Nazi occupation as the major factor that saved the Soviet
Union from being crushed by the Nazi legions. Winston Churchill
glorified the Serbs for their "magnificent valor." Now Serbs are being
denied a
voice by painting them with collective guilt, thereby muzzling any of
their views. Clinton mocks democratic ideals by dismembering a nation
piece by piece in favor of every ethnic minority with a grievances. The
American people continue to be told that Milosevic "unilaterally removed

the Albanian autonomy in 1989," a gross fabrication by the State
Department. The Yugoslav Constitution was changed in 1988 because
autonomous regions like Vojvodina and Kosovo could veto acts of the
Yugoslav parliament. Vojvodina approved the Constitutional change in
February of 1989 and Kosovo approved the change in March. The pretext
that someone has unilaterally taken something away is a ruse. The
State Department omits any reference that the Serbs in 1989 forced the
resignation of the entire central committee of the communist party in
the
"autonomous" region of Vojvodina, the first resignation of its kind in
any communist state in the world. Clinton also ignores the fact that
President Johnson awarded the Medal of Freedom to Milovan Djilas, a
Serb, for writing "New Class" the first anti-communist manifesto written

in this century. Mr. Djilas spent 12 years in prison for writing that
book. Far from cowering and capitulating to Clinton's threats to bomb
them,
Serbs have launched an offensive clearly designed to close off the
borders to more incoming arms and mercenaries. NATO's threatened air
strikes have consistently refused to consider Serbian concerns at the
"peace" talks in Paris. A peace talk in which neither side could
negotiate
any changes. That was not a negotiated peace that was dictatorship. A
major part of Serbian concerns is the very real recent history in which
hundreds of thousands of Serbs were driven from their homes in Croatia
as Croatian forces razed 400,000 homes and seized their properties,
killed the remaining elderly Serbs who foolishly stayed behind. Serbs
driven out of Croatia in 1995 are still denied their property. Knowing
that
President Clinton allowed Iranian arms and mercenaries to come into
Bosnian and now in Kosovo give the Serbs no choice but to stand and
fight. The bombing of military targets will not solve the underlining
problems in Kosovo, that the Serb, Montenegrin, Turkish and Greek
minorities have been denied equal rights, equal justice and legal
parity. Clinton and his aides have deliberately contributed to making
Serbia a
pariah nation in which 10 million Serbs are assigned with collective
guilt. This policy has now backfired. vvv Serbs spent 415 years on their

knees as Ottoman slaves, they refused to be ruled by Croats, Muslims and
Albanians who tried to liquidate them just 50 years ago. Kosovo is
Serbian territory, a fact supported by numerous nations and by every
international law. Instead of bombing Serbia, it is long overdue that
the
United States respect sovereign rights and to defend Serbia against
tyranny from within by criminal elements, from terrorists acts and from
invasion from a hostile neighbor whose drive for an independent Albanian
Kosovo has been well articulated. The writer is the author of the
1991 book, "Serbian Genocide 1941-45 and the 1992 book, Kosovo.




To: James R. Barrett who wrote (1313)4/3/1999 3:16:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
Now this one is downright spooky

drudgereport.com

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX FRIDAY, APRIL 02, 1999 23:52:57 UTC XXXXX

GEORGETOWN SCARE: NSA INTERCEPTS INFO THAT ALBRIGHT HOUSE MAY BE TARGET

In the past 48 hours, the NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY in Ft. Meade, Maryland has intercepted information coming out of Yugoslavia --
information involving an apparent plot to target the Georgetown home of Secretary of State Madeleine Albright.

"The NSA intercepted a discussion of a street address in Georgetown," one well-placed source told the DRUDGE REPORT late Friday
from Washington. "When it became clear that it was Albright's house, the agency immediately passed on the information."

Albright's house is located in an elite residential section of Georgetown and neighbors have not been officially advised of the
development.

But word was spreading throughout the neighborhood on Friday.

"Why are we not being told about what is going on?" one neighbor questioned.

"This is something we should know about! We are walking on eggshells."

The WASHINGTON POST is holding details of exactly what was intercepted by the NSA, according to publishing sources. It is not
known if the paper is planning to report the development.

One resident in Georgetown, that spoke to the DRUDGE REPORT on condition of anonymity, is angry that Albright has not moved to a
more secure location during the NATO bombing campaign of Yugoslavia.

"She should not be this exposed, living in that house during all of this," said the source, who lives doors down from Albright.
"She should be in Blair House or any place that isn't this residential... where others may be exposed."

The State Department refused to comment on the neighbor's concerns.

A heavy, albeit routine security presence surrounded Albright's house on Friday evening.

The neighborhood is home to Washington media celebrities such as NEW YORK TIMES columnist Maureen Dowd and writer David Brock.

Developing...



To: James R. Barrett who wrote (1313)4/3/1999 3:19:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
I would like to apologize for having supported Clinton all these years<g>

The Road To Hell
Clinton, Kosovo and good intentions.
By Charles Krauthammer, The Washington Post

Friday, April 2, 1999; Page A29

On Monday, as "genocide" was going on in Kosovo (so said the State Department), Bill Clinton played golf. The stresses of war, no doubt.

But perhaps we should give him the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps he needed to retreat to shaded fairways to contemplate the consequences of his little Kosovo war. Perhaps between mulligans -- alas, none are allowed in the Balkans -- he was pondering what has become of the objectives for which he unleashed, for the first time in its 50-year history, the might of NATO.

Objective 1: "We act to protect thousands of innocent people in Kosovo from a mounting military offensive" (televised address, March 24).

It is not just that the opposite has happened: savage ethnic cleansing, executions of Kosovar Albanian leaders, the forced expulsion of more than 100,000 Kosovars. That would merely imply gross presidential miscalculation. But the supreme allied commander of NATO, Gen. Wesley Clark, asserts that from the beginning "we never thought that through air power we could stop these killings on the ground."

Question: "Did you tell President Clinton . . . there is no way we can stop that kind of thing with a bombing campaign alone?"

Gen. Clark: "That's been said many times, and everybody understands that."

And yet Clinton publicly ruled out ground troops, thus declaring that there would be nothing but an air campaign. So he starts a campaign to protect Kosovar civilians knowing all along, says NATO's top general, that "you can't stop paramilitaries going house to house with supersonic aircraft flying overhead and dropping bombs."

Has there ever been a clearer case of foreign policy means and ends so mismatched, a condition Walter Lippman once called the very definition of "insolvency"?

Objective 2: To keep the Kosovo conflict from blowing up and destabilizing the neighboring countries. "All around Kosovo, there are other small . . . countries that could be overwhelmed by a large new wave of refugees from Kosovo" (March 24 address, again). He meant Albania, Macedonia, and the Yugoslav republic of Montenegro -- every one of which is now overwhelmed by a large new wave of Kosovar refugees created since the start of Clinton's Balkan adventure.

NATO's bombing of Montenegrin territory and the influx of the refugees have left the West-leaning, anti-Milosovic government of Montenegro teetering. In Macedonia, long fearful of its own Albanian minority, violent anti-NATO anti-American riots have broken out. And Albania, already a wreckage, is overwhelmed by the huge numbers of Kosovars streaming into its territory. Every one of Kosovo's neighbors that Clinton was claiming to stabilize is being destabilized.

Objective 3: "We act to prevent a wider war; to defuse a powder keg in the heart of Europe that exploded twice before in this century with catastrophic results." Goodness. Where does this man get his history? World War II was not remotely caused by the Balkans. And World War I was caused not by clashing ethnics in the Balkans, but by the catastrophic decision of the Great Powers to intervene and choose sides among the contestants for Balkan power.

Sound familiar? Clinton has taken a Balkan conflict that by world standards was relatively minor -- three times as many people were killed in the civil war in Sierra Leone in January alone as had died in the entire Kosovo war at the time we intervened -- and turned it into a world event. The NATO 19 are attacking Serbia; Russia, Belarus and Ukraine are supporting Serbia; China is denouncing from afar. Russia has kicked NATO representatives out of Moscow and is sending a warship into the Mediterranean.

Clinton isn't preventing a World War I scenario; he is recapitulating it. Of course, this time there is no danger of general war breaking out because, apart from the presence of nuclear weapons, the United States is overwhelmingly superior to all rival powers. But the fact remains that Clinton, intending to contain a minor civil war, has overnight internationalized it.

Objective 4: To preserve NATO. Well, NATO did rather well, thank you, for 50 years without launching any wars against sovereign states. The greatest threat to NATO right now is that the Serbia campaign will fail. The Clinton administration, ever seeking to do good, has staked NATO unity and credibility on its ability to pacify the Balkans, a task never accomplished in the century except by Marshal Tito. And he needed all the delicate machinery of a police state to do it.

After Somalia, Haiti and Bosnia, Kosovo marks the outer limits of this administration's foreign policy of good intentions. In war, good intentions are no excuse. They are instead the road to hell, as many Kosovars and Serbs can testify. Something for the president to contemplate while he putts.






To: James R. Barrett who wrote (1313)4/5/1999 2:21:00 PM
From: RavenCrazy  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 17770
 
to James R. Barrett, who posted the following atrocious reply to someone wanting to volunteer help to the refugees. I am re-posting this so that any here who are reading your insensitive posts can see more clearly the type of person writing them.

Many people are truly saddened that ANYONE finds the following response funny. People are DYING, Mr. Barrett. Small children are dying. And you DARE to use it for humorous material.

To: Rose Rose (1305 )
From: James R. Barrett
Saturday, Apr 3 1999 3:04PM ET
Reply # of 1705

>>"Hi, all. I'm hoping to go to Macedonia myself in a week or so to lend whatever assistance I can to the refugees there."<<

Hi Rose, you are a very caring and unselfish person to make that personal sacrifice for the refugees.

I own a hot dog cart in New York and I am flying to Albania with my hot dog cart next week. My benevolent intention is to bring dietary relief to all the reporters, newsmen and spectators who have been in Albania for the past ten days eating Albanian gruel. I am sure they are dying for a good American hot dog with the works. Seeing how I will have a lock on the market I am going to charge $5.00 per hot dog. I will donate 25 cents of each sale to the Serbian Bomb Fund. If the war lasts two more months I should make enough money to retire on the Riviera. Good luck with your mission. Maybe I'll see you at the airport.

Jim