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To: TideGlider who wrote (21855)	4/4/1999 7:38:00 PM
From: Janice Shell	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 26163

Here's something interesting. I'll go into it at greater length tomorrow, but for the moment I'll offer a summary. Mike Sylver is being questioned by Bruce Judd about the 540,000 shares of AZNT stock that were issued to Michael Zapara (or to Alexis International). Mikey admits that he had an agreement with Zapara by the terms of which AZNT would in fact give him stock as a consulting fee. Mikey claims, however, that AZNT never signed the agreement (though there IS a signature on it) and so it was invalid. He further asserts that Zapara then forged documents which he used to persuade the transfer agent to issue the stock in question. The judge asks Judd where all this is leading. Judd replies: 21 MR. JUDD: Your Honor, again, it's offered under 22 12(4) (b)406, part of routine and practice of this particular 23 entity to go through this process to cause disruption in the 24 stock price. 25 What they do is they send and issue shares, then they ASSOCIATED REPORTERS OF NEVADA (702) 382-8778 12:47 P.O7 96 1 complain that it was issued improperly. Then they attempt 2 to persuade DTC, not even persuade, demand DTC and other 3 brokerage firms to cancel the shares, and then they sue. 4 And it is part of what this case about. This is how 5 they do business. 6 THE COURT: For that limited purpose, I will 7 receive it, Counsel. lololol. Ain't it the truth?

To: TideGlider who wrote (21855)	4/4/1999 7:42:00 PM
From: Janice Shell	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 26163

Uh-oh. Mikey misbehaves: 10 THE WITNESS: Charlie? Okay. Thank you. No, no. 11 No. No. 12 MR. MONTAL: Your Honor? Your Honor? 13 THE COURT: Yes. 14 MR. MONTAL: The witness is communicating with 15 people either in the gallery or at counsel's table. And I 16 would like to object to that. 17 THE COURT: Well, I want to have none of that. If 18 there's any communication back and forth, I don't want any 19 waving of heads or anything else. And if there is, I'll ask 20 you to leave the courtroom. 21 I don't want there to be any communication directly or 22 indirectly with the witness while he's on the witness stand. 23 Is that understood? 24 MR. LANDISH: I certainly apologize, your Honor. 25 But I didn't -- if I had seen it, I would have stopped it. ASSOCIATED REPORTERS OF NEVADA (702) 382-8778 12:48 P.08 97 1 THE COURT: Well, I think you're speaking of 2 people in the gallery, aren't you? 3 MR. MONTAL: I was watching the witness 4 communicating with people whom I did not see, but directed 5 in this way, so -- 6 THE COURT: Okay. Well, I don't want any of that, 7 Mr. Sylver. 8 THE WITNESS: Yeah. But -- okay. I understand 9 (indiscernible). I wonder who "Charlie" is. Anybody know?

To: TideGlider who wrote (21855)	4/4/1999 7:48:00 PM
From: Janice Shell	Respond to of 26163

Oh my! Here's an amusing exchange. Judd is still examining Mikey, who, it appears, has not been entirely....candid: 7 BY MR. JUDD: 8 Q. As of February -- excuse me. Let me start that a~ain. 9 As of May 21st, 1998, Fidelity Transfer Company in Utah was 10 Amazon's transfer agent, correct? 11 A. No. 12 Q. As of May 20th, 1998, Fidelity Transfer Company was the 13 transfer agent for Amazon, correct? 14 A. Correct. 15 Q. Fidelity Transfer agency had complied properly with its 16 obligations, correct? 17 A. No. 18 Q. You believed as of May 20th, 1998, that Fidelity 19 Transfer agent -- excuse me -- Fidelity Transfer Company had 20 violated its obligations to Amazon? 21 A. Yes. 22 Q. Mr. Sylver, if you'll let me know when you've had a 23 chance to look at Proposed Exhibit 19. 24 A. Okay. 25 Q. Is this a copy of an SEC filing by Amazon of an 8-K ASSOCIATED REPORTERS OF NEVADA (702} 382-8778 12:48 P.IO 99 1 dated May 22nd, 19987 2 A. That's correct. 3 MR. JUDD: Move for the admission, your Honor. 4 THE COURT: Any objection, Counsel? 5 MR. LANDISH: Again, relevance, your Honor. 6 THE COURT: What is the relevance, Counsel? 7 MR. JUDD: Number one, it's impeachment because 8 while he has said here in court under oath that as of May 9 20th, 1998, Fidelity had engaged in proprieties regarding 10 Amazon. 11 Amazon told the SEC that the only reason of a transfer 12 was convenience. I think that's impeachment number one. 13 And I think it goes to show the validity of the actions of 14 Fidelity Transfer, number two. 15 THE COURT: Okay. It will be received. 16 (Defendants' Exhibit No. 19 was received into evidence.)

To: TideGlider who wrote (21855)	4/4/1999 7:51:00 PM
From: Janice Shell	Respond to of 26163

Is Mikey being coached? 17 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Your Honor, he just did it 18 again. He's communicating to the gallery. 19 MR. LANDISH: First of all, we're getting an 20 announcement from somebody who's not even a member of the 21 bar. At a certain point, your Honor, I think we -- 22 THE COURT: Well, if there's anybody that's 23 communicating, I'm going to ask anybody in the gallery to 24 leave the courtroom at this point. Out. Out. I'm asking 25 you to leave the courtroom. ASSOCIATED REPORTERS OF NEVADA (702) 382-8778 12:49 P.11 100 1 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: (Indiscernible). 2 THE COURT: I'm asking anybody in the gallery to 3 leave the courtroom. 4 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: (Indiscernible). Oh, 5 excuse me. I didn't understand. 6 MR. LANDISH: This is my legal assistant, David. 7 THE COURT: It's fine for him to stay, but I don't 8 want any head shaking or anything of that nature. 9 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: (Indiscernible). 10 MR. JUDD: May I proceed? 11 THE COURT: You may.

To: TideGlider who wrote (21855)	4/4/1999 7:57:00 PM
From: Janice Shell	Respond to of 26163

Woooooooooooooooooooooooo: 6 BY MR. JUDD: 7 Q. Are you familiar with whether Amazon filed with the SEC 8 a form 10-KSB on November 20th, 19987 9 A. Yes. I don't know the date it was filed. I think it 10 was earlier than that. 11 Q. Is it your belief that Amazon filed with the SEC a form 12 10-KSB sometime in November, 19987 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. Is it your belief that in that form, Amazon stated to 15 the SEC that the company initiated legal action in the 16 Federal Courts in seeking the cancellation of another 17 9,740,000 shares of common stock? 18 A. Yes. 19 Q. And who are the defendants in those various legal 20 actions in the Federal Courts as of November 19987 21 A. Joseph Andy Mann, Charles Kricfalusi, Greg Pheifer, 22 Michael Zapara. 23 Q. Who? 24 A. Michael Zapara. 25 Q. Anyone else? ASSOCIATED REPORTERS OF NEVADA (702) 382-8778 12:54 P.06 106 1 A, No. 2 Q. So Zapara action pertains to 540,000 shares? 3 A. Yeah. I got to double check on that. Hang on. Let me 4 add something up here. Can I -- I can't write on here. 5 THE CLERK: No. Don't write on there. That's an 6 exhibit. 7 THE WITNESS: No, no. I can add up. 8 THE COURT: Give him a blank piece of paper. 9 (Colloquy not on the record.) 10 THE WITNESS: I don't believe it includes Zapara. 11 BY MR. JUDD: 12 Q. You mentioned Andy Mann, and that is 4,000,000 shares? 13 A. It's Joseph Andy Mann, Shoreline, Whitecliffe, and 14 everybody named in the lawsuit. 15 Q. It was 4,000,000 shares in this case. 16 A. 4,480,000. 17 Q. 4,480,000. The next person you mention was Power 18 (phonetic)? 19 A. Charles Kricfalusi, Greg Teifer (sic), Wanda Kricfalusi 20 (phonetic), Nextech. 21 Q. Nextech involves 224,000 shares, correct? 22 A. Yeah. 23 Q. Now, this Faluchi (sic) -- 24 A. It's all part of the Nextech/Greg Teifer conspiracy. 25 Q. So Nextech, Teifer, and the Faluchis (sic) all involve ASSOCIATED REPORTERS OF NEVADA (702) 382-8778 12:54 P.07 107 1 the 224,000 shares. 2 A. 4,224,000 restricted shares, not -- not no reg S, just 3 totally restricted preferred shares. 4 Q. 4,224,000 shares. 5 A. Preferred shares, yeah. 6 Q. Where are the balance of the 9,740,000 shares in 7 dispute? 8 A. Well, you have 4,480,000 plus 4,220,000. 9 Q. Where's the balance of 9,740,000. 10 MR. LANDISH: And my math is off. I'm sorry. 11 BY MR. JUDD: 12 Q. I understand -- 13 A. Okay. What's the difference? How many share 14 differences are you looking at, and let's see if I can 15 remember. 16 Q. I think I'm looking at a million some odd thousand 17 shares. 18 A. No, no. Well, maybe it includes Michael Zapara. I can 19 check because its -- its got to be listed of all the shares 20 of everything that -- that was illegally issued by the group 21 of Andy Mann, Charlie, and et cetera, et cetera. 22 Q. Are you contending that Andy Mann is associated with 23 Charlie? 24 A. I know Andy Mann is associated with Charlie, and we 25 intend to prove that. ASSOCIATED REPORTERS OF NEVADA (702) 382-8778 12:54 P.08 108 1 Q. Who is Charlie? 2 A. Charlie Kricfalusi, the gentlemen who introduced us to 3 Andy Mann and Greg Teifer (sic). You see, it's the group.

To: TideGlider who wrote (21855)	4/4/1999 8:00:00 PM
From: Janice Shell	Respond to of 26163

Amazing. Absolutely amazing. Does Mikey ever think about what he's saying? 6 BY MR. JUDD: 7 Q. Let me go back to -- do you have before you the first 8 exhibits your counsel showed you, Exhibits l-A, i-B, and 17 9 A. Yes. 10 Q. It was your testimony that it was very important for 11 you to notify the Depository Trust Company right away 12 regarding the problem with First Concorde's security shares? 13 A. Correct. 14 Q. Do you remember from the last hearing discussing the 15 letter that you sent on May 4th, 1998, correct? 16 A. We went through that in detail. 17 Q. And so you remember sending a letter that you attached 18 as part of your most recent plea paper? 19 A. No. I remember copying a letter that Andy Mann sent me 20 to copy to show the guys in England that he had stock with a 21 certificate that we didn't know existed at the time, 22 correct. That is correct. 23 Q. So you sent the letter saying this is to inform you 24 that Amazon Natural Treasure certificate No. 2119 issued to 25 Joseph A. Mann in the amount of 2,000,000 shares is in good ASSOCIATED REPORTERS OF NEVADA (702) 382-8778 12:55 P.09 109 1 standing, not subject to any hold restriction, correct? 2 A. See, that's the thing. So see, there was no 3 certificate to Joseph Andy Mann. It was First Concorde. 4 That's why I asked Andy. I says -- because that's why he 5 told me. It doesn't make a difference. It's not a real 6 certificate. 7 The guys in England need to see it, so they'll put the 8 money in. See, that's why that didn't matter because the 9 certificate was never even issued. 10 Q. so you were willing to send and sign a false statement? 11 A. We recopied what he said. There was no certificate 12 issued at all. There was no certificate. He needed -- he 13 needed that for his people. In -- on the desk, Robert 14 Qualey has a copy of the original letter that Andy Mann 15 faxed to us. 16 MR. JUDD: Move to strike. 17 THE COURT: It will be stricken.