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To: gregor who wrote (1403)4/5/1999 2:09:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker  Respond to of 14396
 
Asama Ben Ladin, who lives in the era of crusades and even speaks in a code that only other people who also know much of the crusades could know, loves God the Father very much. No one with that much money gives up everything and lives like he does. They actually live very lavish lives squandering their fortunes on their own miserable selves, and send money to people like Ben Ladin. Ben Ladin is highly unusual, and in thinking of him I am reminded of the scene in Patton in which the german high command officer explains to someone that Patton is an ancient soldier lost in ancient Rome.

Ben Ladin is lost in the days of the Assassins (coming from the English "hashish", since it was assumed that people that crazy to die had to be smoking hashish. Perhaps they were. I don't know-- wasn't there).

If any of us would rent a true Koran from our local library, we would see that all of the references to MUSA (how pagan sounding, huh? MUSA....ick) and several other names I didn't memorize. Then you go to the references in the front of the book and find that MUSA is actuaqlly Moses. As is something else JESUS!
And Abraham and on and on.

Not the Jesus of the crucifixion and ressurection, but the Jesus we serve.

Now, remember that most all of this was given to them through Mohammad, who NEVER claimed to be anything but a devinely inspired guy who assumed he had to in fact be an actual prophet. Actually he was quite normal and quite human and quite full of normal failings and temporal lusts throughout his life. His followers now look upon him as a lifelong monklike Buddha, incapable of human lust or even human thoughts. So, that is ludicrous also.

What we have ended up with, from my rather surface knowledge and looking at it all in the encylopedias, etc., and the Koran to see for myself, is a nonstrous confusion in which tens of millions of hand-jive, hip-bobbing carnal Christians mostly obsessed with more and more entertainments to keep them unbored in the house of God, look upon those who read the Koran as actual satan worshippers. According to very intellegent brethren in Calvary Chapel, perhaps the closest truly spirit filled groups left that actually resemble anything close to the real thing, but less and less, I fear, assured me that MUSLIMS WORSHIP THE EGYPTIAN MOON GODDESS!!!! All of them. All of them all worship Toth, the Egyptian moon goddess. Well, perhaps in 500 b.c., maybe. My ancestors worshipped satan openly and participated in the most loathesome of human depraved and immoral "festivities."

As for Mohammad, I would probably have liked him a lot.

So, now the followers of Mohammad will probably one day soon happily charge around in a foaming-at- the mouth huge crowd lopping off all of our heads if they could get ahold of us and we would not reject Jesus Christ.

Then they would happily embrace us as sane and let us live happily ever after without Jesus Christ, under a monstrous legality called
"Islam".

So, yes, the key here is to pray for the Mountain of Mohammad to be cast into the sea. Mohammad, rejecting Christ, stands between Jesus Christ and every single Muslim/Islamic on earth.

So, what would break down these barriers? If Asama himself, the very fire-keeper of the Crusades, would himself experience the Living Christ, and would then become as crazy about Jesus as every other human being who has ever discovered His Reality.

The other religions present dead men carved out of huge stones. The acceptance of belief in these dead men makes life bearable.

However, the Holy Spirit brings a Living God who can be felt by the senses and through the Holy Spirit the human can openly bej in
communion and communication with the Living God.

I would pray that the Angels Michael and Gabriel are able to war their way through the demon filled shield that now surrounds us, and that in the name of Jesus Christ, they are allowed full access to the mind and heart of Asama Ben Ladin. I would pray that the hand of satan be taken off of his spirit, and that his human spirit be set free to receive the Holy Spirit, which is the Living God, which is Jesus Christ, the Son.

Angels of mercy and goodness, who bring us each to Christ individually, can be sent by God through prayer. We pray now Father God that you loose legions of ministering angels to hover over the human misery on the refugee fields around Kosovo, and especially around the camps and homes and libraries, and hangouts, and all secret places that hide Asama Ben Ladin.

Father God, we lift the soul of Asama Ben Ladin to you. May the scales of 1300 years fall from his eyes, may his ears plugged for 1300 years be unplugged. We pray this as the miracle of the mountain being thrown into the sea.

And for Arafat also, Father God. May he come to a full knowledge of Jesus Christ that he may enter into eternal rest with you, knowing that his sins are forgiven.

For the refugees I pray that the Holy Spirit of mercy be upon all who are truly of a good heart and love the Father in Heaven, named Allah
by Mohammad.

And for the Body of Christ, Father God, I pray the miracle that they
rediscover the original Savior. May all spirits masquerading as Jesus Christ be revealed and rejected. May all doctrines not from the mouth of Jesus Christ Himself be rejected. May all New Things be examined, and if they do not line up with the original teachings of Jesus Christ, may they be rejected. May all teachings of all men be examined carefully, that if they are spoken even by one we believe is an angel, if they do not line up with Jesus Christ, may these things be rejected. Upon the entire earth.

May God arise, and may His enemies be scattered.

May the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ prevail upon the earth in this time of great need.

I pray this for the entire world, in the name of Jesus Christ, for His glory and honor and praise.

Amen.



To: gregor who wrote (1403)4/5/1999 2:23:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker  Respond to of 14396
 
Gregor, all that is really on my mind is this unbearable, horrendous suffering going on of so many people that it is getting hard to comprehend it.

These are mostly farm families and small business men. There is NOT A WELFARE SYSTEM IN THESE COUNTRIES. YOU WORK OR DIE!

To be ripped from your nice little house with all of your prized possessions, surrounded by tons of animals, many of which are purely pets, and to have nothing, no food, nothing, this is reminescent of the horrors of the Indian removal and most certainly the Jews, except the Jews only lost little crowded apartments for the most part in crowded little urban areas. Their suffering and loss was still monstrous, just from their possessions and loss of creature comforts in urban apartments, but there is no suffering like losing LAND, and everything that sets on it.

Men and women can grieve over favorite plants and trees, even, let alone animals and purchased possessions.

Now it looks like they are going to lie on the ground in fields until they die on TV.

I just cannot hardly comprehend what this extent of misery really means. I know also that any money sent there will get there at about .05 on the dollar. That if we all hopped into private planes and went there in a frantic Christian missionary frenzy, the paperwork alone would keep everyone out.

Perhaps it is because this is the first mass horror of hundreds of thousands which we can so totally relate to--their lives are not a lot different from our own, and I notice we all now dress almost exactly alike.

Gregor, I don't even know who to call. When I call a local politician, of course I get a record or a girl answering a phone.

Do our thoughts even count anywhere? Is it in fact the situation at this point in time that simply saying there is nothing we can do to stop it is about the truth? Do we pray more than ever then?

Remember that there but for the Grace of God, go I. Food for thought. Lots and lots more people all over seem to be going...

Does anyone know of any direct Christian group we can truly trust to use donations with honor and honesty? For the life of me I can't see just sending money so a bunch of Christians can pay for passages around the world and then have funds to keep themselves going while there, after giving much of that donation to the parent organization.

That kind of leaves me without any great generous urges. But do you know of direct mission groups proven to not be in it for the money?

CBN of course. But they aren't there yet, and I'll bet they aren't going to be let in either.

Oh, yeah. I want to thank our king for thus far leading us into the 21st Century in such an unforgettable manner.



To: gregor who wrote (1403)4/5/1999 2:41:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 14396
 
Gregor, I have to keep erasing my babblings about the suffering in
and around Kosovo. These are farmers and small business owners, much like ourselves. Even wearing all American working class clothes.
This would be sad if they had all been street people with only a food stamp card as a possession, it would still be unfair and horrible.

But this, and for what reason? We are going to be able to see them filmed while they die in the open in these fields if something is not done soon.

I can see that the paperwork is keeping everyone out. There is not a sign of the usual Christian vanguards running through the crowds with food and blankets. Surely this is looking like a planned Global 2000 preemptive population elimination. I wonder if it is?

Whatever it is, it is monstrously evil, and surreal.

I pray for every miracle of every sort to be loosed upon these poor people.

Remember, Gregor, that they are Islamic/Muslim only becuase during the 1500's someone came charging through making their ancestors reject Jesus Christ or have their heads lopped off in the public square.

My compassion for them is no less at this point than if this were the state of Kansas. Suffering is suffering, monumental and overwhelming loss of things, and land, and animals and plants and gardens and now the life of the very young and the very old while they stay in open fields, on the GROUND, what is going to stop this? You can only survive so long when it is nearly freezing at night.

To God in Heaven we pray to stop this, Father God, and stop it now, please. In the name of Jesus we pray! May the goodness of God be used to bring these people to repentance and a knowledge of Jesus Christ.