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To: nihil who wrote (33728)	4/5/1999 7:54:00 AM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

When a male dog accepts a less than alpha role his testosterone level plummets, he carries his tale low, and often becomes neurotic and sick. I believe the same thing happens to a man who is not dominant and not even trying to be, who is henpecked at home, or has no mate at all. Must disagree there. A mateless male has far more incentive to excel; once mated his fate is more or less sealed, and he fades away.

To: nihil who wrote (33728)	4/5/1999 12:59:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 108807

The male drive for dominance fascinates me. I am a so-called "high-T" woman (high testosterone) so I have dominance urges myself, but my work style is much more cooperative and consensus-seeking, at least in relative terms. My husband treats every disagreement as a power struggle, and if he doesn't get his way, he thinks he lost, and he sulks and pouts. I have to consult with him on every decision, even if it's buying an item for the household (the brand of toilet paper needs discussing, but I can pick the cleaning solutions without being second-guessed). I can't throw away a piece of fruit without him fishing it out of the trash and looking it over. I don't bother throwing away anything in the refrigerator (unless it smells rotten) until I show it to him first. I have carved out a few areas that I will not compromise on, and refuse to negotiate, but the rest of the time, I try to make him happy by conceding as much as I can.

To: nihil who wrote (33728)	4/5/1999 4:06:00 PM
From: Chuzzlewit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Going back to the dogs, the only thing really important in most solitary unneutered males' lives is establishing dominance over other dogs. Dominance and 'solitary' are mutually exclusive unless you are talking about different times of the year (as in wolves). Dominance is a social trait. Dogs are extremely social, which is why they are so easy to train. Primates are equally easy to train. Not so with solitary animals. That's why cats are tough. Aggression is different (and often confused with dominance). Aggressive behavior is territorial-- you keep potential rival males away from your females, or keep rival groups out of your hunting range. Territoriality and social social dominance are often confused -- they are quite different. TTFN, CTC