TELEPHONE                       $6,069           $13,248

 Q.      How many times did you call Mr. Mann in February?
   16       A.      I don't think I called him at all in February.
   17       Q.      I'm showing you your telephone bill, March 9th, 1998.
   18       A.      Excuse me. That's Amazon Natural Treasures' telephone

   19        bill, not my telephone bill.

   20       Q.       Excuse me. Amazon's telephone bill.
   21       A.       Right.
   22       Q.       Did you call Mr. Mann from your home phone number?
   23       A.       No.
   24       Q.       Well, there's a number of calls on February llth to an

   25        845-7540 number in Cancun. Who was that?

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    1       A. I have no idea. A lot of -- many people make phone calls
    2       from Amazon Natural Treasures.
    3       Q. To Cancurt, Mexico?
    4       A. To all over the world. Our phone bill's $18 thousand a   5       month.

I have to post this again also. It is so Freudian...

PLAN OF OPERATION 

Amazon Natural Treasures, Inc., a privately held Nevada Company. Amazon Natural Treasures, Inc., is a multi-faceted company which is a Phytogenics  Health Maintenance Company along with bringing the treasures of the Brazilian Amazon Rain Forest to the rest of the world. They produce and distribute health supplements derived from plants and related species for the cure and treatment
of human illnesses and disease. The Board of Directors feel this will offer shareholders a viable business opportunity now and for the future. 

Then of course their is Mikey's recognition that there are two Wellrich's...<s>

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1       Q. And then we have a company called Wellrich, right, and I
2       believe you testified that you're in some sort of Wellrich as
3       well?
4       A. Not that Wellrich, no. There's two Wellriches.
5       Q. There was no problem at all with the introduction between

6       Mr. Kricfalusi and of this particular Wellrich.               

7    They did  everything they were supposed to do, correct?
8       A. Correct.

   9         Q. They were supposed to do a private placement for you but
10        in fact that never happened?
11        A. They started the private placement. Did quite well when
2        the stock was 3 and seven eights. That's $3.82.

One of my favorites...

BY MR. MONTAL:
 14       Q. Now you found out in March 27th, on or about March 27,
 15       1998, that the certificates that were supposed to be in escrow
 16       were being transferred and you had according to your testimony
 17       not been paid for them. But yet on May 4th, 1998, exhibit 30
 18       you wrote a letter attesting to the fact that the 2 million
 19       shares represented by certificate 2119 were, quote, in good
 20       standing and not subject to any hold restrictions, correct?

21       A.       I copied a letter that --
22       Q.       Did you write the letter?
23       A.       NO, I did not.
24       Q.       Did you sign -- is this your signature on exhibit 30?
25       A.       Yes.

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   1      Q.      Did you send that letter?
   2      A.      No.
   3      Q.      You didn't send that letter to anybody?
   4      A.      I did not.
   5      Q.      You signed the letter and what did you do with it?
   6      A.      I gave it to my secretary.
   7      Q.      And what did she do with it?
   8      A.      I don't know.
   9      Q.      So you have no idea if this letter was ever disseminated?

 10        That's your testimony now?

 11       A.       Correct.
 12       Q.       But somehow --
 13         THE COURT: Well, now just a moment. Normally when
 14       you  give a letter to your secretary do you expect it to be
 15       mailed?

 16      THE WITNESS: She faxed it. Yes, she faxed it. 

(  ROFL. That is priceless.)