I know this interview is a couple of days old, but for people new to gathering info, it's a succinct personality portrait of Arkan, as it is in his own words. At any rate, copied here just for us information gatherers:
King of the Tigers -- ABCNEWS.com
April 3, 1:23pm PT — The Serb militia leader known as “Arkan” says his paramilitary group will defend their country. But he denies accusations that his feared “Tigers” — known by the insignia they wear — are already operating in Kosovo. Arkan's real name is Zeljko Raznatovic. Reputedly one of Serbia's richest men, he is wanted for bank robberies in Western Europe in the 1970s and 1980s, and is believed to have amassed wealth from war profiteering. This week, the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal based in The Hague revealed it had indicted Arkan in 1997 for unspecified war crimes. Western officials have accused him of committing atrocities during the 1991 Serb rebellion in Croatia and later in Bosnia. NATO has applauded making the indictment public, hoping it will serve as a warning to Arkan not to deploy his gang in Kosovo. Fears that he would do that were sparked by his public appearance last weekend in Belgrade, where his pop-star wife, Ceca Raznatovic, performed at an anti-NATO concert. He was seen cradling two of his children.
A ‘Serb Patriot' For his part, Arkan vehemently denies he's a war criminal. He prefers the term “Serb patriot.” He says the three U.S. soldiers captured by Yugoslav forces were “clearly on a spying mission.” He's also issued a plain threat to the United States and NATO: “If they come with ground troops they will fly back in bags.” This week ABCNEWS' Diane Sawyer interviewed Arkan on Good Morning America. Following is a transcript of the interview:
Sawyer: We're going to turn now to Zeljko Raznatovic, who is the man known as Arkan, and he joins us now from Belgrade, Yugoslavia. Good morning to you, sir. This is my question: We have heard that you say that in Yugoslavia, your indictment is considered funny. Is this a laughing matter? Arkan: Yes. Very laughing matter. You are talking to me, and you've been bombing the civilians in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, you've been bombing people of Vietnam, you did genocide in Cambodia, killing innocent children by biological experiments, and you been killing people in Panama and Grenada, and you are talking to me as that I am a war criminal because I was defending my country called Yugoslavia, and you don't know either on the map where we are. You know only that your country … Sawyer: Well, without addressing the fact — without — I think we do know on the map where you are, sir. But without addressing those … Arkan: OK, now you will know. You — you are going to know where we are, OK. But I have to tell you that I don't consider myself a war criminal — not even my president, Slobodan Milosevic, is a war criminal as that expert talking before to you was telling. We are a normal human beings — we are normal people. I have, myself, have nine children, I have a beautiful wife — so we didn't rape, we didn't kill, we didn't torture nobody. Sawyer: Well, let me ask you about something then. You have said — let me ask you specifically: You have said that your paramilitary units are not operating in Kosovo right now. Will you swear on the lives of that family you mentioned that they are not? Arkan: I don't have the paramilitary — I don't have. Excuse me, I don't have paramilitary units, I am — I was, all the time, under the command of Yugoslav army. So to tell you that I am not in Kosovo, I am in Belgrade and my units — those are units of volunteers in a case of war — those units as you have civil guard in United States. So let me tell you that I am a commander of a civil guard in Yugoslavia, for example. So to make it to you easier, so either if you come with ground troops — the United States are coming with ground troops — to Kosovo, to Yugoslavia — attacking — then I will be active and I will defend my country, my children because we are only to defend our country, nothing else. We didn't attack United States. We didn't Great Britain or Germany or France. We only defend our country. Sawyer: Without letting you make a speech, excuse me, sir. Let me ask you one specific question about the three … Arkan: Why do you want to interrupt me? Sawyer: Let me ask you … Arkan: Why do you like to interrupt me during I am talking? It's not polite for you. Sawyer: Well, I don't know that it was polite … Arkan: It's impolite to interrupt me when I am talking. Sawyer: — some of the things you've been accused of is — have not exactly been manners. Arkan: You don't let me express myself. Sawyer: Let me ask you this, sir, about the three young men now being held. There is a trial, we are told, going to take … Arkan: Yes, we have three captured American soldiers. Sawyer: That's right. And we've been told there is a trial going to be taking place. What is the outcome of this trial likely to be? Arkan: If you would capture three Yugoslav soldiers in soil of United States, you will try them for a spy mission as those three scouts — American scouts — captured deep inside Yugoslav territories are going to … Sawyer: And the punishment? Arkan: The punishment, I don't know. I can't tell you — I'm not a judge, I am not president of the court — military court — we are in a war. And, of course, they come without passport, without visa, they didn't bring humanitarian aid to the people, they bring rifles and some other things with them so probably they will be, of course — they will go up to the military court and we will see what is the punishment. But it's not, as I heard, they are telling United States they will be shot or something like this, is stupid. They will be probably free for few days or few months, I don't know how long this stupid war will going on. Sawyer: All right, Mr. — Mr. Raznatovic, I'm sorry, we're going to have to …. Arkan: The war which NATO produced in Yugoslavia. Sawyer: All right, sir. I am sorry, but we are out of time. Perhaps we can continue this conversation in the days ahead, and we thank you for joining us this morning. |