To: TigerPaw who wrote (41724 ) 4/6/1999 5:23:00 PM From: one_less Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
<<This is the same concept as then a miracle occurs.>> No it isn't. In the case of the math problem, you are plugging in a solution for comic effect. Fine, we don't know exactly how cloroplasts capture the suns energy and turn it into food but we know that it happens. So we can either put the "miracle occurs" comment in or we can put a simbol in its place until we have more info and label the process photosynthesis. If you can think of time as a temporal thing (Having beginnings and endings). Then you should be able to imagine time as having an ultimate beginning and ending. Some physicists have gone so far as to claim it is an illusion all together. Same with mass, which can ultimately be reduced to energy, which has no mass. OK you are the physicist here not me so I'm not going to debate these topics. It is enough to say that the evidence on either side is inconclusive. We definately know that physical objects have limitations to their being (well, unless you are Neitze). So, why not an ultimate limitation to physical being. If there is an ultimate limitation to physical energy, space, time; why not an ultimate being that is not defined by the limits of energy, space, and time. One that is outside the descriptors used for the physical universe. A being that is not temporal but eternal. Not limited at all, but all knowing and all powerful. Seems common sense to me. To you it is only a fill in the blank, for what you can't understand. It also seems common sense that values, purpose and principle that are not disernable as physical entities have a common sense reference and evidence in this context. You want to be able to detect the communication from God to a prophet, but you deny the presense of the message in your own heart. Religion at best only validates what you already know to be true and encourages you to live your life accordingly. You can analyse and define the physical components to the universe according to their limitations. But to insist that is all there is in the realms of reality, only defines your limitation.