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To: Joey Smith who wrote (54593)4/7/1999 6:15:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr  Respond to of 1578002
 
And now for some very good news.

From the press release - "AMD also reported that March shipments of AMD-K6-2 processors exceeded shipments in January and February combined."

If AMD only shipped 4.3 million chips in Q1, then they must have made AT LEAST close to 2 million processors in March. Proof the problems are over.

More from the press release - "Based on March production results and the planned production mix of AMD-K6-2 and AMD-K6-III processors, and initial shipments of AMD-K7(TM) processors scheduled for June, the company believes that ASPs will improve this quarter."



To: Joey Smith who wrote (54593)4/7/1999 6:51:00 PM
From: RDM  Respond to of 1578002
 
<http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/weekly_cpu/b.shtml>

RDM K7 Conclusions about Sharky story:
1. Evidence AMD is in alpha test to OEMs as discussed and doubted on this thread.

2. Clock is 500 Mhz for alpha prototype with support chip, etc limitations. Small L2 Cache is used (512K) and run at 166 Mhz (clock/3).

3. Results are similar to Pentium III at same clock rate (500 Mhz). Floating point improved over K6 and similar to Pentium III.

4. This is good news for K7 fans. The K7 performance lower bound is now established at parity with the fastest Intel chip. At a 600 Mhz clock with 2 MB of cache performance may be 20% faster than 500 Mhz Pentium.

5. AMD are just a couple of tweaks (errata) away from a chip that will out clock the Pentium and perform at or greater for the same clock.

6. This is necessary confirmation for shipping for revenue of K7 in June.



To: Joey Smith who wrote (54593)4/7/1999 7:14:00 PM
From: Scumbria  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1578002
 
Joey,

Running benchmarks on Alpha silicon is a hazardous endeavor.

You might come to the wrong conclusion.

Scumbria



To: Joey Smith who wrote (54593)4/7/1999 7:39:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578002
 
<AMD investors might want to check out this article on K7 coming from a "rah-rah" AMD site.>

As much as I'd like to believe that this is good news for Intel, I have my doubts. Quoting from Bugs Bunny, "I must be dreaming. It couldn't be this easy."

Saying things about the performance of "alpha" silicon really isn't saying much. Remember two years ago when Tom Pabst (Herr Uberclockermeister) got a hold of pre-production Klamath silicon (the first Pentium II) and gave a very lackluster preview of the chip? Then once the real Pentium II was released, its performance was much better than what Tom had predicted based on the pre-production Klamath.

I think right now AMD is still trying to work out many issues, like whether they can increase the speed of the L2 cache, how fast they can actually run the processor bus, and most importantly, whether they can introduce the K7 at some sort of speed above the baseline of 500 MHz. The "alpha" K7 chips that some of the developers have in their possession may just be older "defeatured" chips used for platform (as opposed to performance) validation.

Yes, that June/July timeframe is coming awfully close, and problems are problems, but I'll continue to reserve judgement on the K7 until its release.

Tenchusatsu