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Technology Stocks : Discuss Year 2000 Issues -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ken who wrote (5353)	4/7/1999 9:53:00 PM
From: Ken	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9818

From Roleigh Martin: A good article. <Lane Core passes the below recommendation on--his email...but I agree, it is a good article. [I highly recommend this.] y2ktoday April 5, 1999 Y2K and the Failure (So Far) of the Press by Scott Johnson (sjohnson@idefense.com) (http://www.y2ktoday.com/modules/home/default.asp?feature=true&id=1194) "Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized. In the first, it is ridiculed. In the second, it is opposed. In the third, it is regarded as self-evident." -- Arthur Schopenhauer Which stage of the Y2K reality are we in today? Judging from media coverage of the issue, we are somewhere between the first and the second, between ridicule and opposition. Many members of the press have spent months laughing in print about the fears of Y2K disruptions, and to some extent they still are, but that laughter has grown more and more nervous.... ------------------------------------- Mr. Lane Core Jr. elcore@sgi.net or lanec@tsoft-inc.com users.sgi.net >>>

To: Ken who wrote (5353)	4/8/1999 12:14:00 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 9818

<<there are going to be more than a couple of unemployed and displaced workers out there>> Please quantity this so I/we can understand some possible chain of reasoning here.. Somewhere between none and everybody. Exactly how many remains to be seen at the time it occurs. Can you provide a more exact figure?? ...which 'senario' in your statement do you fear to stand up for, Ron? 'serious disruptions'? 'a transition'? the laughable situition(sic) of 'more than a COUPLE...' I don't stand up for any scenario in particular. The fact remains that, despite your seemingly fervent belief that we're looking at total disruption and breakdown in our society "kendemonium", that you can't quantify your disastrous scenario any more than any of us can. There just are not enough facts our there to substantiate either scenario. So everyone is left to sort through the conjecture, hype/anti-hype, in order to determine what exactly they must prepare for. .....Oh? By "any", are you implying 'all'? If not, please specify which ones are within this senario and which would potentially be excluded. Yes K..K..K.. Ken, I mean ALL. Given the time and need all systems can be replaced, rerouted, modified, circumvented, worked around, modernized, automated/de-automated... etc. Critical infrastructure systems will obviously be the highest priority and I don't need to read Gary North to figure that out (sorry that you had to) But we simply won't have a good idea what works properly and as designed and what doesn't until we start seeing disruption occur or the window of "opportunity" for catastrophic system disruptions passes (I guess by April/June, 2000). The more important point you have grossly overlooked in this wonderfully inspiring belief, is how, exactly, this would be done, with multiple malfunctions (that do not happen during the 'normal' times)occuring simulataneously, at many different places, to preclude resources from being shipped in as they can/are during normal times? How do you figure that I've grossly overlooked this? A bit presumptuous of you, isn't it? I guess we'll all of a sudden lose all of our vehicles, trains, or even bicycles that aren't y2k compliant. Can you provide any evidence that suggests that these gross disruptions can't be worked around?? Can you quantify what types of gross disruptions that you are POSITIVE WILL FAIL UTTERLY AND COMPLETELY?? Since you refuse consistently to respond to my hard questions about y2k, maybe you will at least this time grace me with a reply of whether the following are your personal preparations for y2k.... "It's not my Yob, Mon" to have all the answers. Maybe such a "sexual intellectual" such as yourself should offer your services to Mr. Koskinen. Let me know and maybe I can get an "in" so you can share your extraordinary expertise with the powers that be. All I or anyone else can do is kinda hope that there are enough CIO, agency heads, and common engineers interested enough in maintaining their jobs, that they are motivated to fix or work around these problems. Kinda like we have to hope that our police, military and intelligence folks are on top of dealing with terrorist threats. If they're not, just what exactly can I do about it until it happens?? What will you do about it? Regards, Ron