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To: D. Long who wrote (2603)	4/8/1999 12:37:00 AM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 17770

You will notice on your list that not once of those occasions except Vietnam (perhaps you see that as a success?) involved our bombing and trying to destroy the leadership of a soverign state which had not itself attacked a foreign nation or in which we were not requested to intervene by the duly constituted government. There is not a single precedent to Kosovo in your entire list. You seem to have read something about it. That's one perspective. Living through it was another.

To: D. Long who wrote (2603)	4/8/1999 5:35:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

You left out a lot of Presidents. Harding, Coolidge, Hoover all intervened in the Caribbean. Jefferson intervened in Algiers. The State Department published an official list of all official American interventions, and it ran on for pages. McKinley seized the Philippines and Hawaii (1898) and Guam. Navy and marine seized forts in Korea about 1871. Perry opened Japan by show of force 1856. American troops invaded China to crush the boxers. American troops invaded Russia in 1919 (Archangel Expedition) -- the list goes on an on. International law is made up as you go along. If you hang war criminals after World War II, it becomes a habit. It is important to win, if you play these games, then you can write the international agreements later -- Shoot first, and sign treaties afterwards.