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To: J. Kittle who wrote (26585)	4/9/1999 10:26:00 AM
From: PJ Strifas	Respond to of 42771

I hear it's real tough in small towns to keep from being noticed but I'm sure there are some advantages too :) Then again I came across this in an email: ____Accrue Upgrades Server To Capture Web User Data____ Accrue Software Inc. next week will release the third version of its Web-traffic analysis software, Insight. The upgrade helps capture Web user data that most site-analysis tools can't detect. Called post parameters, these types of data often contain important information, such as a user's registration or identification, that tells a Web server how to build a dynamic page. Insight 3.0 also captures data from any field in a cookie -- a bit of code on a browser that identifies a user and the pages that user has viewed. Earlier versions of Insight captured only the top field of a cookie. Insight 3.0 also includes scalability enhancements. Accrue says the product can now store up to 190 Gbytes of data in its built-in data warehouse and can collect user data from more than 2,000 copies of Web server software running on as many as 1,000 boxes, enabling it to handle millions of hits per day. Insight 3.0, priced from $17,000, also offers advanced data mining tools and can export report data into spreadsheets for presentations. --Justin Hibbard --------- It doesn't look like self-regulation will ever work when there are companies out there who are making MILLIONS on helping people gather information! Good thing the telephone company doesn't track my calls....wait...they do! Peter Strifas

To: J. Kittle who wrote (26585)	4/12/1999 11:50:00 PM
From: Scott C. Lemon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42771

Hello J, > I live in a town or about 6,000 and the girls at the post office > know what mutual funds I own, what banks I use, what credit cards I > have, what clubs and organizations I belong to and support, my > hobbies and all three of my addresses. {and even more examples and prose deleted} I wanted to comment on your post ... this is a very good observation, and reinforces my perspective that privacy and security only occur within a certain scope or range. I believe that the range of privacy is only within a "community" or a "crowd" of people. Unless you choose to be a complete loner and isolate yourself from society. The writer of the Melissa virus was caught because the "community" that he operated through decided to give him up! If AOL had not agreed to help the authorities, it might have been impossible to catch him. This is very similar to the current extradition of the two Libyans(?) who were sent to the Netherlands. Libya decided not to help the authorities, and so sanctions were imposed ... and when the "community" finally wanted the sanctions lifted, they decided to comply ... and they gave up their own. This same model will exist in cyberspace ... with a wide range of communities of people with different morals and values. You will "exist" or "live" in the virtual communities that you trust, just as you currently live in a community which deals with your privacy in a way that you tolerate. We'll have to live with the fact that some virtual communities will accept and allow things that other communities won't ... but then we'll move to another community ... just like the real world! So if we build the technology to provide for this ... ;-) Scott C. Lemon