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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (85)	4/9/1999 4:17:00 AM
From: Ga Bard	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 211

Also Anticipated Additions means NOTHING many go their and never trade again like 95% I am talking about ones that get halted. I don't think it is wise to put hopes in peoples minds when their is none. Gary seems confident or does he know something we don't... I have my doubt's. If you go read the MIDL thread, it was brought to my attention over there by poster. I do not know anymore than you. However, I did after seeing the anticipated scenario start my DD on the process. I believe I am familiar now with that process. MIDL filings are current and it is anticipated to trade which means apparently a market maker has submitted a 15c211 because the filings are current with everything disclosed. The rest is up to the comment stage of the NASD and the SEC and attorneys of MIDL and the market maker. Now in case you are unfamiliar with that process, I believe the NASD has five days for comments and then once they get their answer they can ask more within five days this can probably go on forever. Also I have to again disagree with you that 95%. When a stock is anticipated it does for the most part come back trading. I would like to see your underlying basis for that 95% stat please sir. Best of luck with CNHH but from my perspective it has all the earmarks of another investigation. Especially when some pissed off MIDL holders see the release and justifiably show the SEC the comparison of it and DF-144 that was a big part of the MIDL halt. Not to mention the Greek Shipping scenario that got tossed from CNHH to MIDL now we have DF-144 getting tossed from MIDL to CNHH Looks like Ping Pong to me. This is where you are DEAD WRONG ... the reason for the halt was because of non current filings NOT DF-144, all the industry changes or whatever else you want to say. But I guess you can innuendo it to death. Facts are facts. Yes the SEC has and is fully researching all the various industry changes, people and so forth. As far as Ewert goes he would NOT allow his life's work to go back into MIDL. AND YES I have talked to the man on numerous occassions. The SEC has the test results I gave them and the octane enhancer is real and they know it and so does just about everyone else and it has and is being used in the auto racing industry. Heck, even Exxon I have been told has tried to steal it out from under Ewert. Did you know there is a process to fuel a car off water and the big gas corporations are trying to steal it and bury it ... Also read one of Jeff Harrington's posts about his grandfather losing to a big corporation for a truck .. You have posted a lot of misinformation in the form of innuendo and for a man that prides himself on reading comprehension apparently you haven't read the halt order. Also if you call the SEC they did not halt trading because of anything but the delay in filings which are current now. Also those releases were letters of intent which never were closed on and the board of CNHH took Tate's offer over the shipping company. But then again you make everything sound like it had closed. SA never came into CNHH only Tate. There is nothing that earmarks anything either. When Mr. Pybas read that MTBE was banned, he apparently decided to go to see Ewert and he came back with a deal, signed agreement, aquistion, letter of intent .. whatever. They are in the process of doing their DD unlike MIDL. They want to KNOW it is exactly what Ewert says and Ewert's stesting says it will do. If it passes CNHH's DD I guess they will close on the deal ... will just have to wait and see. As far as the release, they have to make the announcement in a timely fashion, regardless of your opinion, to be in accordance with the SEC disclosure rules. But because people on the internet are so used to getting the information first, a company that releases a letter of intent is now considered hyping when in fact they are following the rules. Very soon the Disclosure of informnation is about to get a lid put on it. Maybe you should read this on the changes looming for the disclosure rules: 206.253.196.11 They just outlawed getting stock for investor relations and more is coming. All this leaking of information, scalping, etc. is going to stop too. 206.253.196.11 Now the only link to MIDL is Bob Barbee who instantly resigned when DF took over MIDL ... OH and DID NOT go back on the board when Spriggs left.... Barbee REFUSED ... non of the old silent directors did which is why Mark was President and we only have one board memeber now on MIDL. Sometimes it is a little to convienent for on line people to speculate and spread innuendoes instead of getting the facts. The more misinformation that is posted the more I have a duty to set the facts straight which I will do. Now one other link is Mark Pierce who resigned a long time ago and has resigned from MIDL and every other company he was affiliated with because I feel I made the call to him with you on conference about DF issuing shares. Mark ended up doing something about it to get back what DF took and according to the last filing he was successful but that call I made to him destroyed him. It is my fault if it is anyones because I am the one that alerted him and you know that you were on the phone with me. He is OUT of the BUSINESS and only does SEC contract legal work I hear. BTW did you ever call the TA to see if stock was issued to Pignatello ... I did and guess what ... NO there was not any issued but he is charged with doing it. Maybe you should read this article ... post-gazette.com You know some of the facts and if you wish to continue with this mounting innuendo campaign I will be more than happy to debate the facts. Personal attacks do not bother me for I have the facts on whatever you want to try and twist. You also seem to forget you are the one that taught me how to do DD or have you forgotten that. However, I out grew your influence over me and the day you called me threatening me was the day I lost all respect for you and figured out I was a moron for allowing you have the absolute influence over me you had. I hope you did not convienently shut off your phone recorder when you called threatened me because I refused for the first time to post what you wanted instead of what I did. I am here for whatever you want to do ... I am prepared with facts ... so get yours together I have mine. I know your style ... I await the midnight posts so they are on the thread prior to the bell to get the max effect ... Remember you taught me so I know to check throughout the night for this type of post but I will be here. I am paid to keep the facts straight and that I fully intent to do. :-) Gary Swancey Paid IR in cash and 50K stock options

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (85)	4/9/1999 2:23:00 PM
From: Binder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 211

My post was strictly about the news release so the above comment on your part was your innuendo if you think not than you need to re read my post. I did as you asked, and re-read your post to me. Actually Alan, I think you may have had a sentence or two about CNHH in your post to me, but most of it was about you personally, why you do not like to post anymore, and your thoughts on IKAR and EUTO. Well again I guess for myself I have had about enough of this nonsense of personal attacks... You then asked my opinion of the CNHH news release, and I gave it to you. If you don't like it, I'm sorry, but you are the one who asked for it. Don't think for one second that even though I have NOT posted on the stock threads for nearly a half a year that I have not seen YOU refer to me with innuendoes. I wouldn't call it inuendo. I think I have been pretty clear in my statements or opinions about you and the way you operate. Besides, we all know you haven't been hiding ... you have been on Raging Bull anyway. Again, you are the one who asked my opinion. Did you do so because you wanted to know what it was, or did you do so to give yourself a basis to attack? You are no less guilty of personal attacks than anyone else here. We ALL do it. . I read it and to be honest it made me very angry. I do have close friends who got stuck in MIDL I have plenty of friends who got burned by Midland too. Heck, I was burned by it! That is exactly why I said it is wise to be skeptical. But I still believe this product is real. That is my opinion, which you asked for. A real newspaper would not have a headline reading as follows; ATT $ MCI MERGE in bold and then in the body of the text state but with the following conditions.....if they are not meet it's a NO go... I disagree. I think newspapers jump the gun all the time. Besides, it sure beats a news release ten months down the road that says "Oops, we were wrong...in everything we have said for the last 10 months". We both know what that can do. The big thing with you people is FACT and no innuendoes..... From my view its not facts that you want it's the rub my back routine and if you do not rub my back I will destroy you and threaten you verbally... Thats my opinion and I have a right to it..... The only one who has mentioned backrubs was Bender, in a post to me. I'm not here to scratch anyone's back, nor do I expect anything from anyone here. Like I said, I own the stock, and I am watching the stock in light of the recent news. I believe my last purchase of the stock was well over a year ago. The name calling has been going on for a very long time and if you wish to continue with it that is your choice... It can end here or continue. Whatever....I believe that you asked my opinion, and when you didn't like it, you refuse to accept that there may actually be something here, and labeled it into "name-calling". I don't think it is wise to put hopes in peoples minds when their is none. Gary seems confident or does he know something we don't... I have my doubt's. Isn't that what one does each time a positive post is made on any stock? I am not putting hopes in anyone's mind. I believe in the product. You may or may not believe in it. The product is real, but whether or not it ends up in this company remains to be seen. That simple. One can either wait around and see, or not. I am choosing to wait around and see. If I was the company, and my IR did not seem confident, I would be getting a new IR. Maybe Gary does know something we don't. I would think that as IR he would have to know things before the rest of us, but again, you would have to ask him. Best of luck with CNHH but from my perspective it has all the earmarks of another investigation. Especially when some pissed off MIDL holders see the release and justifiably show the SEC the comparison of it and DF-144 that was a big part of the MIDL halt. Maybe, maybe not. Time will tell. If it is investigated and cleared, will your opinion of the company or the product change? Looks like Ping Pong to me. Well Alan, if you don't like it, don't buy it! If you think there is something criminal in nature going on here, report it! What more do you want from me? Now I don't know (and truly don't care) if you or the other two are DF affiliates or not. I'm pretty sure that there aren't too many people jumping up and down claiming to be DF affiliates with a 60+ million dollar judgement out there. Let's face it Alan, you don't like me because I called Dusty a pissed off old lady, and I don't like you because I have seen you run too many stocks to many times and hurt too many people in the process, and you decided to stick your nose into a matter that didn't concern you in the slightest. When you do this, and then at the same time proclaim to be a religious man, it is offensive to me. Hypochristian is more like it. What is comes down to is that if you want to live by the sword you have to be willing to die by the sword too. Best of Luck, Binder