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To: Ian@SI who wrote (4370)	4/9/1999 10:08:00 AM
From: Jeffrey D	Respond to of 15132

Ian/all, you might recall Bob Brinker asked how he missed the news that Gore invented the Internet. To follow up on that high tech miracle we now have this. I hope Gore becomes President. He will be good for a few laughs. Perhaps he should recruit Dan Quayle for VP and thay could be the Martin & Lewis of politics. <gg> Jeff << Gore Site Spawns High-Tech Debate By MARTHA MENDOZA .c The Associated Press SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Vice President Al Gore's attempt to speak nerd-talk to computer programmers has developed into a high-tech faux pas. A message hidden in the programming code for Gore's presidential campaign Web site touts his support for sharing software codes. But the high tech aficionados who went looking behind the scenes found the entire site is built using products from Microsoft Corp. -- a company that refuses to share its programming code. ''It's like he's saying he's all for buying American cars and then driving around in a Honda,'' said Jim Jagielski, a core developer of the Apache software that powers most Internet Web sites. It's not hard for an Internet user to peek behind the scenes of Gore's Web site. Simply go on the World Wide Web to algore2000.com, choose ''View'' from the menu on top of the screen and click on ''Source'' or ''Source Code.'' Suddenly the tanned and happy image of Gore is replaced with this message: ''Thanks for checking out our source code! ... The fact that you are peeking behind the scenes at our site means you can make an important difference to this Internet effort.'' The site invites computer programmers to share their ideas about how to improve the Web site, ''in the spirit of the open-source movement.'' Open source is a registered trademark referring to the free distribution of software codes. Gore's support of open source programming follows a growing movement in the high tech community to share and communally improve the codes behind software. The practice defies Microsoft Corp.'s competitive practice of keeping its software source code private, so that it can surprise consumers with new developments. Linux, for example, is an operating system that makes computers run, similar to Microsoft's Windows. But unlike Windows, anyone can download Linux code for free and develop it in new ways. Apache's Web server programming code is also made readily available. John Witchell, a partner at USWeb who developed Gore's site, said Thursday that in reaction to input from Web site visitors, they are going to shift to a true open source operating system and server in about three months. ''This was an honest initial attempt,'' said Witchell on Thursday. ''What you will soon see is a Web site that is widely respected in an open environment. We're going to get better and better at this.'' This isn't the first time in recent weeks that Gore has tripped up technically. Gore drew ridicule from the high-tech community when he said in an interview that he helped create the Internet, a remark he later blamed on being tired. And just minutes before launching his campaign into cyberspace Tuesday, Gore's campaign staff rushed to remove questions from the Web site that asked children for their names, e-mail addresses and zip codes -- a practice soon to be outlawed on some Internet sites by legislation Congress approved last year. >>

To: Ian@SI who wrote (4370)	4/9/1999 10:45:00 AM
From: Justa Werkenstiff	Respond to of 15132

Ian: "If the street holds the view that ETEC will take another year or so before it recovers while others (AMAT, KLAC, NVLS, etc) in the FrontEnd wafer processing sector are going gangbusters now, then ETEC could very well get abandoned for now." I agree if the street sees it as over a year. I think the street will conclude that it will be a couple of quarters. Also, trading history would also indicate that probabilities are on my side. The market agrees today <g>. Nice pop at the open and moving up on high volume. Do I dare say bottom? Yepper, looking good. Looks like the portfolio managers found it on their screens. Good for them. Let's see how many are standing in line to buy today.