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To: epicure who wrote (34168)4/9/1999 11:34:00 AM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 108807
 
My perception is that the Kosovars are not actually citizens of Yugoslavia, at least not in their own minds. I get a little fuzzy on the history, after the break-up of the Ottoman empire, speaking fuzzily, things got carved up according to physical boundaries, not cultural ones.

I don't like the fact that empires and nations devolve into cultural nation-states, but it's a fact, nonetheless. People seem to be happiest with their own kind, although we know what horrors that can lead to.



To: epicure who wrote (34168)4/9/1999 11:50:00 AM
From: jbe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
"A country has a right to kill its own citizens."

Did Nazi Germany have a right to kill its own Jews? Was it just the Polish Jews and the Hungarian Jews, etc., that it did not have the right to kill?

Seriously: suppose Nazi Germany had never expanded, and put only German Jews in the oven. Should we have reacted or not? If we should have reacted, then in what way should we have reacted?

It is true that the principle of non-interference into other countries' internal affairs makes for fewer headaches. But there is non-interference, and there is non-interference....

Bombing is an extreme case, of course. (Although bear in mind that the bombing of Yugoslavia is not a unilateral US action; it is a NATO action.)

What about UN peacekeeping missions, for example? They too are often viewed as exercises in "interference." BTW, in Rwanda, the US opposed expanding the peacekeeping contingent that was already there, even though the local UN commander was pleading for more troops, who might have been able to stop the slaughter. This was right after the debacle in Somalia, and the US was wary of any more involvement in Africa.

jbe




To: epicure who wrote (34168)4/9/1999 5:34:00 PM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 108807
 
A country has a right to kill its own citizens.

Purely for purposes of argument, would you say that the US Government has the right to kill you if it pleases? If the US Government suddenly had a mind to kill, say, all lawyers and their families (don't think it hasn't been suggested) would you argue that nobody ought to intervene or provide you with refuge?