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To: jbe who wrote (34229)4/9/1999 7:19:00 PM
From: epicure  Respond to of 108807
 
I was thinking more along the lines of the death penalty. Our Constitution says the State has the right to kill you- it is merely necessary to give you Due Process (and as we know from case law, due process can be, and has been, defined in many ways).



To: jbe who wrote (34229)4/9/1999 11:51:00 PM
From: nihil  Respond to of 108807
 
This is a very simple right. The federal government cannot deprive anyone of life, liberty, and property without "due process of law" or deprive anyone of equal protection of the laws. (Justice Murphy argued the U.S. Government could not extend less protection than the states under 14th Amendment in 1943 and the Supreme Court bought the argument in the D.C. School Case that accompanied Brown. Any person acting under the law who deprives anyone of his or her civil rights is liable under Sec. 1983. This is the reason that a bunch of New York cops are going to jail (they ought to fry IMO) as well as having their property whisked away by the courts to compensate their victims.
Increasingly, as decent lawyers demand resources and give their clients effective defenses, the travesty of executing unprotected persons will be revealed as what it is --- mere savagery by the State,
in the U.S. (especially N.Y . and L.A. approaching genocide.)