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To: Adam Nash who wrote (23858)4/10/1999 4:56:00 PM
From: Mark Palmberg  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 213182
 
This is kind of interesting:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/257298.asp#BODY

I don't recall seeing this posted here yet. Dell points out two (of MANY) huge benefits of using a Mac: Style and Y2K compliance.

He said Apple's iMacs, which have had explosive growth, were a wake-up call to the computer industry.

No s#%t? <gg>

iMarq



To: Adam Nash who wrote (23858)4/11/1999 1:03:00 PM
From: FruJu  Respond to of 213182
 
Hate to point out the flaw in this logic, but technically, if Apple has seeded developers with Carbon libraries, then they would be under NDA not to reveal that fact. You are basically assuming that "everything leaks" which isn't true.

Apple has made no public announcements about seeding Carbon libraries, but then again, they made no public announcements about seeding B&W G3s. But they did.

Apple never publicises hardware seeding... one could argue that their supersecrecy on the B&W G3s actually hurt them (e.g. lack of 3rd party modems for first 3 months). However, software seeding is a different issue, particularly, huge, first-edition OSes most in need of 3rd party support/debugging/testing with existing and new apps.

I'm sure Carbon has been seeded to the the usual suspects, Adobe, Microsoft et al., but the lack of progress on making a more widely available beta is disturbing. I'm expecting to see some sort of Carbon release (even if only on top of 8.6) by WWDC, but this is still later than Apple promised last WWDC, and would seem to indicate they're behind schedule.

Remember, Mac OS X is not just some iteration of Mac OS. It's a whole new ballgame - new kernel, new libraries, new hardware access... everything has changed (even if the user interface remains the same). There needs to be a long Q&A period for testing 3rd party apps, getting developers up to speed. Given all this, it's still looking more and more to me like a release is being pushed back into 2000.



To: Adam Nash who wrote (23858)4/11/1999 1:06:00 PM
From: Doren  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 213182
 
Adam,

Hate to point out the flaw in this logic, but technically, if Apple has seeded developers with Carbon libraries, then they would be under NDA not to reveal that fact. You are basically assuming that "everything leaks" which isn't true.

This makes sense. Why would Adobe tell anyone what they were working on? A disgruntled employee possibly, but I would imagine they have their best working on this project.

doren