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To: Bobby Yellin who wrote (31512)4/11/1999 11:35:00 AM
From: sea_urchin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116788
 
I am sure you are concerned about alleged atrocities. I would imagine all of us are.

Unfortunately
(a) The bombing, by increasing Serb anger and fear, has made the atrocities worse, not better
(b) The bombing has also contributed significantly to the Abanians (and others) leaving Kosovo

It is therefore my view that the so-called atrocities are merely the excuse for the NATO intervention, and not the reason. In fact, alleged atrocities are hardly an excuse for a manifestly illegal act of military intervention in the internal affairs of a sovereign state. If any agency was to intervene, it was the responsibility of UN, not NATO, which is an organisation specifically set-up to protect against former USSR aggression in Europe. NATO is not and never was a moral policeman. The UN has chosen not to intervene. And Russia and China in the security council voted against it. I'm not sure about France.

Serbia is not interested in colonial expansion into neighbouring countries. That threat, in fact, comes from the Albanians who, besides Albania and Kosovo, also live in Montenegro and Macedonia. And it is the Albanians --- and the KLA --- who are now, for whatever reason, being supported by NATO. You may recall that, within months of Tito's death, the Albanians of Kosovo agitated for independence --- long before Milosevic was known about. And long before Slovenia tried to break away from the federation --- a move which was totally opposed by the US and Britain.

It is, in my opinion, the Albanians who are wrong. They lived for years in Kosovo but did not integrate, retaining their own language and customs. It is they, in fact, who practiced ethnic cleansing and over the years pushed the Serbs out, diminishing the Serb part of the population from over 50% to about 10%. Meanwhile, Serbia did not retaliate, except against the KLA, always regarding the Albanian Kosovars as citizens of Yugoslavia (Serbia).

I am sure the Albanians feel a lot "safer" now that NATO "cares", as you call it. As regards a no-win situation --- yes, no-one in the region can win now --- certainly not the Serbs and hardly the Albanians. That is why the continued presence of NATO is simply an attempt at bullying Serbia and extracting revenge. And, of course, an ego trip for your President.



To: Bobby Yellin who wrote (31512)4/11/1999 10:13:00 PM
From: goldsnow  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 116788
 
what is the price for ones soul..to witness atrocities and to stand by >>>

Perhaps the price for ones soul is somobody elses life or maybe ten lives, or thousand? You may recall Somalia operation where in one night after 18 Americans were killed, our troops killed several thousand Somali (mostly women and children) in self defence of course....We were out in 1 month (that is longer than in Beirut after 200 troops were massacred there..Israeli routinely torch the houses of relatives of suspected terrorists...As for KLA there was not a single village not in support of KLA....The chance of Serbs giving independance to Kosovo are as good as Israel giving-up Jerusalem..
As to the outcome of the destruction of Yugoslavia...(No wonder Clinton refuses to give an explanation of the goals)
I challenge you to give me an optimal scenario how it would end...I am sure you will get lot of replies :)



To: Bobby Yellin who wrote (31512)4/11/1999 10:54:00 PM
From: Little Joe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116788
 
Bobby:

A noble sentiment. But we have stood by so many times. Mass murder has gone on and is going on all over the world. There is a reason why the powers that be have chosen to intervene in this particular situation. I for one do not believe that the reason is humanitarian or that Milosevech (spelling close I think) is a threat to the stability of Europe. There are powerful forces at work here, but I must confess I haven't figured out the agenda yet.

Live long and prosper,

Little joe