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To: Graystone who wrote (22360)	4/11/1999 2:46:00 PM
From: Janice Shell	Respond to of 26163

You'll enjoy this Gray. Here's how Bob Quiel does "DD": 5 Q. Well, let me ask you this. You said you determined from 6 reviewing the books and records of the company that the 7 company had not been paid by Andy Mann. How did you make that 8 determination? 9 A. I asked the company. 10 Q. So who did you ask? 11 A. The president. 12 Q. And he told you he had not been paid? 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. And that's what you're basing your determination on that 15 the company had not been paid? 16 A. Yes. 17 Q. Do you have any other evidence that the company had not 18 been paid? 19 A. No. And then later, still Montal questioning Quiel: 16 Q. Okay. Do you have any knowledge as to where certificate 17 2142 is today? 18 A. 0nly from the reports that I've heard that -- I guess 2142 19 you're referring to is the one that J. B. Oxford -- this one 20 here? 21 Q. Correct. 22 A. The last word that we heard it was sitting with DTC. 23 Q. And from whom did you hear that? 24 A. I think Mike Sylver or one of the attorneys for the firm. 25 Some correspondence or something. ASSOCIATED REPORTERS OF NEVADA (702) 382-8778 QUILL - CROSS 234 1 Q. So it was -- you didn't do any independent investigation 2 about that. You just relied on what the company told you? 3 A. I did as much as I could do. 4 Q. I just want to know whether you did any independent 5 investigation to determine where certificate 2142 is. 6 A. No. Heyyyyyyy!! CALL THE COMPANY!! And order my new book: home.att.net Montal really is a guy after my own heart. Bet he's lots of fun in person. I think I'll send him an autographed copy.

To: Graystone who wrote (22360)	4/11/1999 2:58:00 PM
From: Janice Shell	Respond to of 26163

An exchange that perhaps warranted further development: 20 BY MR. MONTAL: 21 Q. Good afternoon, Mr. Quiel. 22 A. Good afternoon. 23 Q. You're not an attorney, are you? 24 A. No. 25 Q. You have not taken any legal courses? ASSOCIATED REPORTERS OF NEVADA (702) 382 8778 QUILL - CROSS 211 1 A. I've taken some legal courses but I'm not an attorney. When and why did he take "some legal courses"? Earlier he testified that he did his Series 7, and began working as a broker, in the early eighties. He's 64 years old. What was he doing before that? Apparently he's "not an attorney". Was he ever one? If so, why isn't he one anymore? Again, betcha Montal knows the answer...

To: Graystone who wrote (22360)	4/11/1999 3:24:00 PM
From: Janice Shell	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 26163

Remember how confused poor Gary Sylver was about his brand new Creative Capital account? You know, the one he for some reason opened before he'd ever had any dealings with Andy Mann? 16 Q. Let me go to Exhibit 28. Who did you receive this 17 from? 18 A. Creative Capital. 19 Q. Now, this shows -- 20 A. This is a year-end statement. 21 Q. A year- end statement? 22 A. I'm pretty sure that's what it is. 23 Q. It shows a transaction for 3/31, 1998, 319,500. Do you 24 see that? 25 A. Yes. ASSOCIATED REPORTERS OF NEVADA (702) 382-8778 85 1 Q. Do you know what that means? 2 A. It looks -- I think they were -- no, I don't. 3 Q. The next item shows 199,526. 4 A. No. I only know the last one. 5 Q. The last one is 4 slash 30, 300,000 A, Z, and T. What 6 does that mean? 7 A. That 300,000 shares of mine were transferred from my 8 account to Andy Mann's account. That's his account number. 9 Q. Now, you know that because somebody's told you that's 10 what it means? 11 A. Creative Capital has told me that. 12 Q. That's what they told you it means. 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. Did they tell you then that going up to items for 4 15 slash 21, 30,000 shares, you loaned 30,000 of your Amazon 16 shares to somebody else? 17 A. I can't answer that. I never made any arrangements to 18 loan anything but the 300,000. 19 Q. Well, when you received this statement, did you wonder 20 what all these loans meant? 21 A. No. To be honest with you, I didn't pay attention to 22 it until right now. Now Judd questions Quiel about the same Creative Capital account: 1 Q. You have before you exhibit 28, defendants -- excuse me. 2 Plaintiff's exhibit 28. It would be that document to your 3 right. 4 A. This one here? 5 Q. The single-page document to your right. 6 A. Oh. 7 Q. Do you see that? 8 A. Oh, this page here? 9 Q. Yes. This was presented by Gary Sylver and I'm asking you 10 in your expertise if you can help me to figure out what some 11 of this means. Have you ever seen such a document as this 12 before in all your experience? 13 A. Yeah. It looks somewhat familiar. 14 Q. You have? 15 A. I've seen something similar, okay. 16 Q. Do you know what any of these transactions would 17 represent? 18 A. It looks like the account of Mr. Sylver. I -- it has a 19 fax notation on it, Creative Capital. So I'm assuming that 20 that's where it's come from. I don't know but it doesn't say 21 what firm it is. And it gives the activity report of his 22 account. 23 Q. Let's take the March 31st, 1998, transaction that has the 24 numbers 219500-L. Do you see that? 25 A. Yes. ASSOCIATED REPORTERS OF NEVADA (702) 382-8778 QUILL - CROSS 164 1 Q. In your experience what do you think that means? 2 A. It looks like they transferred, to DTC 219,500 shares of 3 AZNT from Raymond James to this firm and it looks like it 4 might be Creative Capital. 5 Q. For Mr. Sylver's account? 6 A. For his account. 7 Q. The next item, April 9th of 199526-L. Would that be the 8 same kind of answer? In other words Raymond James received 9 another 199,526 shares? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. So as of that time Mr. Gary Sylver would have had over 12 419,000 shares of Amazon stock? 13 A. I guess that's a total. 14 Q. The next item is 4/16/98 of 43,000-S? 15 A. 4/16, you said? 16 Q. Yes. 17 A. Okay. 18 Q. What does that mean? What does the transaction reference? 19 A. It says loaned. Well, I guess it says loaned. I'm not 20 sure if they're notations but they delivered 4,300 shares so 21 that's a short delivery. 22 Q. 43,000? 23 A. I'm sorry. 43,000. It's a journal entry from account 24 35761955 to 35445306. I don't know who that might be. 25 Q. By this do you believe that Mr. Gary Sylver engaged in ASSOCIATED REPORTERS OF NEVADA (702) 382-8778 QUILL CROSS 165 1 some shorting of 43,000 shares? 2 A. No. It looks like -- it looks to me as if he loaned the 3 shares to somebody. 4 Q. Oh, okay. Loaned. So then the same thing would be true 5 of the 30,000 shares in the next item? 6 A. That's what it looks like. 7 Q. same for the next? 30,000? 8 A. Yes. 9 Q. Then if I understand your testimony there would have been 10 a receipt of 71,160 shares? 11 A. From Raymond James. 12 Q. From the 29th? 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. Then a loan of 300,000 shares? 15 A. Yes.

To: Graystone who wrote (22360)	7/5/1999 1:18:00 PM
From: Don Pueblo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 26163

#reply-8815460 I regret to say I have not kept up with this. That is an AMAZING post. AMAZING! I was laughing so hard I almost got a cramp. It staggers the imagination to think that somebody that had been licensed as as 7 and a 63 would say that stuff anywhere, let alone in front of a Judge. It is mind boggling. The basic premise of the license is an ethical and fiduciary duty to the public! I guess that dude missed that question on the test, eh? Funny stuff. Very funny stuff.