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To: alan hardy who wrote (1551)4/11/1999 8:49:00 PM
From: Mama Bear  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1729
 
alan, if you are selling your long position no uptick is needed. However, you will not end up boxed in that case. As I understand it. most brokers lend shares to short from a pool of shares, there is no specific designation that you are shorting 1000 WXYZ from account #123456789. If you want to create a short position, the uptick rule will apply regardless of whether you are boxing or not. The only way to create an uptick is to bid above a downtick bid. That defeats the purpose if you are trying to short.

Aside from that, you may want to avoid boxing. A poster named steve goldman, who is a trader for Yamner & Co, and I had a conversation on how the rules concerning boxing have been tightened up as to make the strategy almost useless, and may put you in violation of exchange rule. I believe the conversation started with this post: #reply-7854134. I used to be a big fan of boxing (stocks), but have been convinced to drop the strategy.

Barb



To: alan hardy who wrote (1551)4/11/1999 8:50:00 PM
From: Tai Jin  Respond to of 1729
 
You cannot create an uptick by selling your shares. The bid must move up. When you sell you are offering on the ask. If there is no uptick, the best you can do is offer to sell (short) 1/16 above the bid and wait for someone to take you out.

...tai