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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (34440)	4/11/1999 9:05:00 PM
From: Chuzzlewit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Sidney, I am the first one to admit my very limited knowledge of the Bible, but I suppose that's what confuses me. When is a covenant not a covenant? The word God gave to Cain was not a covenant between God and mankind. It was just God saying what He would do for Cain. God was not required to, He had not given His word YET that He would ever do anything for man. So if I understand you, God gave his word, but because it wasn't a covenant, it didn't count. I guess God had his fingers crossed, huh? And the covenant with Abraham wasn't a covenant at all because? Are you suggesting that God lied? Or maybe suckered the ancient Jews into believeing he made promises he had no intention of keeping? Is that what you're suggesting. And here you jump off the deep end: You want to blame God for the stupid actions of deluded men who think they are doing some service for God, but are not. No, I blame men for their own stupidity and short-sightedness. When you hold a belief that has no basis in observable evidence, and indeed when all of the available evidence argues that your belief is incorrect you have only yourself to blame. My premise was that the Bible did not provide an immutable basis for morality. In the course of disputing my point you have provided me with additional evidence for my point: you believe that a deceitful God is portrayed in the OT. I agree. QED TTFN, CTC

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (34440)	4/11/1999 9:12:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Respond to of 108807

You want to blame God for the stupid actions of deluded men who think they are doing some service for God, but are not. Things like burning people at the stake who disagree with their doctrine. All I can say is the just reward for their actions awaits them. It will be given to them at the proper time. We are less concerned with assuring that these deluded ones get their just desserts then with assuring that they no longer have the opportunity to burn anyone at the stake. This is why religion must be constrained. Anybody is free to believe that they are God's chosen representatives, and that they are doing God's will, until they intrude on the rights of others. The debate is not over who really knows what God wants; that is something none of us knows for sure. The debate is over what people can be permitted to do to one another, and since we cannot resolve any of the claims to divine support, we must discount all of them in reaching these decisions, and rely on our own capabilities.