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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: pezz who wrote (802)	4/12/1999 8:12:00 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

pezz, The problem isn't with nations like the US, Canada, and EU having too many kids. It's located in the undeveloped nations where tax incentives don't exist for family planning. It is in places such as Mexico, Egypt... etc, where population growth is 3% per year, where we find the majority of population growth increasing. Since I don't have any control over those nations and can't limit their growth except by military or economic means, I really don't know what good it does pressure countries who already have static or negative growth demographics such as Europe and the US. In fact, you should be encouraging larger families in Westernized nations, knowing fully that we'll eventually be fighting off the hordes of "have-nots" trying to seize the property of the "haves". Pezz, in part I've kinda been having fun with you. Your position is one that has been espoused for years and has had no impact due to it being presented to the wrong target audience, namely the US and not the undeveloped nations. But after I stop having fun, we're all left with some stark realities. Realities like Kosovo, Sierra Leone, Ruwanda, and Ethiopia/Eritrea where resources are scarce and competition fierce, and people kill one another for the flimsiest of reasons. Realities where we know that much of the undeveloped world will continue to exist in its endless cycle of poverty and famine, growing their populations, expending their available resources, polluting their environment due to lack of modern infrastructure, and growing restless for a better life and looking for something to blame and take their frustrations out upon. Eventually, we're looking at a serious potential for war, especially should the US economy falter and remove the last remaining cylinder from the engine of economic growth. The result would likely be a severe and deep recession/depression that could last for years. Poor economic conditions are the primary motivator for increasing violence and military aggression. So I'm sorry Pezz, if I'm yanking your chain a little too much. But the overpopulation problem isn't here in the US or Europe. It's in places where we don't have a lot of political influence, or where gov'ts resent the US trying to marginalize their power or dictate their population. After all, when you lack economic power, the next best thing is manpower and large intimidating armies. Regards, Ron