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To: sea_urchin who wrote (31685)	4/13/1999 6:05:00 PM
From: Mark Bartlett	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116768

Searle, <<civilian deaths>> And it is sanitized as "collateral damage" ..... yea - lets make this a clean and sanitary war ..... we do not kill civilians - we have "collateral damage". MB

To: sea_urchin who wrote (31685)	4/13/1999 6:21:00 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116768

Schröder support for strikes tested Mr Schroder has called for his party to back him Germany's Chancellor Gerhard Schröder has appealed to his party to support his firm stand on bombing Yugoslavia - and flatly rejected calls by left-wingers for an end to Nato's air assault. Leading members of Germany's Social Democratic Party (SPD) have voiced opposition to Nato's campaign. They are attending a special party conference where Mr Schröder will be formally elected the party's chairman. But Mr Schröder argued that Germany had a special responsibility to stand firm against Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic because of the nation's Nazi past. "Our response must be clear," said Mr Schröder. "We must never again allow murder, expulsions and deportations to be tolerated by politicians." The Nato attacks mark the first time that Germany's military has been drawn into combat against a sovereign country since World War II. German Tornado jets are helping to attack Serb air defence radar systems and protect Nato bombers which have destroyed many military and strategic targets. Mr Schröder told the 470 conference delegates in Bonn that Germany's credibility as a Nato ally was at stake. "We have a responsibility toward our allies in Nato," Mr Schröder said. "We also have a responsibility toward the people of Kosovo who have become victims of the most gruesome human rights violations." Strong objections The chancellor's stand has provoked vocal objections from a minority in the party as well as the once thoroughly pacifist Greens, Mr Schröder's junior coalition partner. Left-wingers and the Social Democrats' radical youth organisation introduced a motion at the convention calling on the government to press for an end to the air strikes and for fresh Kosovo peace talks with Yugoslavia. A victory for the anti-war faction could have serious consequences for Nato's so far united front. But the BBC's European Affairs correspondent William Horsley reports that outcome is unlikely as the anti-war movement in Germany has been more subdued than in some other member states of the alliance. However there is considerable public unease that the policy is causing enormous damage to the Serbian economic infrastructure without as yet achieving its goal of rescuing Kosovo-Albanians persecuted by Serb forces. New appointment The Kosovo crisis overshadowed a meeting originally called to install Mr Schröder as new party chairman. The post fell vacant after the dramatic resignation last month of Oskar Lafontaine the party chairman and and finance minister. Mr Lafontaine withdrew from politics after falling out with Mr Schröder because of the Chancellor's plans to abandon the left-wing economic policies which have alienated German business. news.bbc.co.uk

To: sea_urchin who wrote (31685)	4/13/1999 6:26:00 PM
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NEWSMAKER-Russia's urbane Ivanov unsheathes claws 02:39 p.m Apr 13, 1999 Eastern By Gareth Jones MOSCOW, April 13 (Reuters) - NATO's bombing campaign against Yugoslavia has turned Russia's urbane, politely-spoken foreign minister into an anti-Western polemicist firing off verbal volleys reminiscent of the worst days of the Cold War. Now, with Russia seen as a major player in diplomatic efforts to end the conflict, U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright has attempted to mend fences. Igor Ivanov, who met Albright in Oslo on Tuesday, has emerged as the main conduit of Russian anger over the NATO air strikes. ''We have seen the 'contribution' NATO has to make to a resolution of the Kosovo problem. As a result of that 'contribution' ordinary civilians are dying,'' the foreign minister said in the first days of the bombing campaign. The balding career diplomat has accused NATO of ''blatant genocide'' in Yugoslavia and has called for a criminal trial of those responsible for the air attacks. In Oslo on Tuesday he was more diplomatic, but he made his chief point coldly clear. ''Russia's position on NATO's use of force in Kosovo remains unchanged,'' he said in his opening remarks to a news conference. But despite his stern rhetoric, Ivanov is not a natural hawk and has been careful to keep channels open to the West, making clear Russia will not get sucked into any Balkan war. ''We are interested in preserving all the positive things that have developed over the last few years...We have no interest in any return to the confrontation of the Cold War era,'' he said late last month. Prime Minister Primakov, a 69-year-old former intelligence chief, has been seen as more naturally hostile to the West than Ivanov, who replaced him as foreign minister when Primakov became premier last September. While Primakov is a Middle East expert and a fluent Arabic speaker who counts Iraqi President Saddam Hussein among his acquaintances, Ivanov's career has been closely tied up with western Europe. A former Russian ambassador to Spain, Ivanov speaks English and Spanish and has a long experience of Balkan affairs. But with Primakov focusing mainly on domestic policy these days, at least in public, Ivanov has become the face of Russia's rage at NATO's strikes. He has given regular briefings, methodically and tirelessly repeating Russia's fierce opposition to the strikes and blaming NATO for the humanitarian crisis in the Balkans. Kosovo is not the only foreign issue on which Russia and the West have differed since Ivanov became foreign minister. Ivanov has also spoken out against U.S. and British military action in Iraq and has expressed concern over Washington's plans to develop a Star Wars-style missile defence umbrella, saying this undermines the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) treaty. Born in 1945, Ivanov is a graduate of the Moscow State Institute of Foreign Languages. He is married with one daughter. Copyright 1999 Reuters Limited.

To: sea_urchin who wrote (31685)	4/13/1999 9:07:00 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 116768

US Senator Says Khmer Rouge Must Be Held Accountable 07:06 a.m. Apr 06, 1999 Eastern PHNOM PENH (Reuters) - A U.S. Senator said Tuesday it was important Cambodia ensures accountability for crimes committed during the 1970s Khmer Rouge rule but said aid should not be used to pressure the government on a trial. John Kerry, a member of the Senate commerce and foreign relations committees, said he was to meet Prime Minister Hun Sen later Tuesday when he would also discuss the international community's hopes for stability in Cambodia. ''I would like to communicate my concerns about the importance of the accountability for the 1970s Khmer Rouge excesses,'' Kerry told reporters soon after arriving in Phnom Penh. The United Nations has proposed setting up an international tribunal to try Khmer Rouge leaders for genocide and crimes against humanity during their 1975-79 rule when an estimated 1.7 million people were killed. The United States backs the proposal but the Phnom Penh government has insisted a trial must be in Cambodia under Cambodian law, even though U.N. legal experts and Cambodian lawyers say the local judicial system is not up to the task. Late last month U.S. Senator Mitch McConnel warned Hun Sen that U.S. aid would be at risk if a trial of Khmer Rouge leaders did not measure up to international standards. But Kerry, a Democrat from Massachusetts, said he did not believe aid should be directly linked to the issue of a Khmer Rouge trial. ''It's premature, in my judgement, to make a strict formalized equation of all aid to one or two particular aims,'' he said. ''We, all of us, will take into account progress but if you have a very strict automatic linkage of humanitarian assistance to an overly strict regime of what you're expecting, that could conceivably become counterproductive,'' he said. The United States suspended all but humanitarian aid to Cambodia in 1997 after then First Prime Minister Prince Norodom Ranariddh was ousted by his junior coalition partner and co-premier, Hun Sen. Washington gave Cambodia $35 million in aid in the year before Hun Sen's coup. Hun Sen's ruling party narrowly won an election in July last year and Ranariddh later agreed to join Hun Sen in a new coalition. Kerry said there were still concerns about cooperation between the coalition partners though he said progress had been made in recent months. ''There are still serious questions about the degree to which the coalition and the cooperative governmental process is taking hold,'' he said. ''We're particularly concerned that a new chapter is really being written.'' Kerry is also due to meet Ranariddh and his father, King Norodom Sihanouk, before leaving Wednesday. Earlier Tuesday the suspected remains of two U.S. servicemen killed in Cambodia at the end of the Vietnam war were repatriated to the United States. The remains were placed in caskets and draped with the U.S. flag at a solemn ceremony at Phnom Penh airport. A total 76 U.S. servicemen who were killed in action or went missing in Cambodia during the Vietnam war remain unaccounted for. Copyright 1999 Reuters Limited