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To: MileHigh who wrote (18692)4/15/1999 1:57:00 AM
From: Estephen  Respond to of 93625
 
From WSJ.......I don't think I ever saw this posted..

March 15, 1999




New Chips Bring Hope to Some
Tech Stocks

By CAROLYN WHELAN

Technology stocks have been laggards of late, as major
technology companies like Dell Computer, Advanced
Micro Devices and 3Com announced disappointing sales
or earnings as the first quarter approaches its end.

In addition to that and a seasonally weak period,
investors have shied away from tech stocks because of
some key product transitions that may be pushing sales
into the future.

In the weeks and months before a product
debuts, buyers may hold off on purchases
of it and related products. But the release
of a new product can unleash pent-up
demand, and boost the company's stock.

"Every time you change a product it's a new round in the
boxing game," says Henry Voskoboynik, a vice president
at Forum Capital Markets. "The company with the best
technology has the best chance of winning the next
round."

That's why some investors are ignoring short-term trends
and trying to identify winning technologies. Roger Kay,
an analyst at the International Data Corporation, sees
Intel's new core logic chipset-- commonly known as the
820, or its code name, Camino--as the "next big thing" in
technology.

Its release could help ignite dynamic random access
memory (DRAM) chip maker Rambus, kickstart the
struggling disk-drive business and boost the fortunes of
graphics chip makers. And though it hasn't been
officially announced, Camino is slated to debut this fall.

The new core logic chipset
may, in fact, have a bigger
immediate impact than the
newly released Pentium III
or even Windows 2000
(Microsoft's long-delayed
new operating system for
servers and workstations),
which is expected later this
year. Kay believes adoption
of both those new products will be slower than usual.

Camino, on the other hand, directly affects graphic
speeds, spurring the development of new graphics chips
and software games.

Loosely speaking, core logic chipsets acts as a traffic
cop between the microprocessor and other systems in a
computer. It directs the data flow between the processor,
the memory subsystem, the PCI Bus (which gives access
to the hard disk drive) and the graphics subsystem.

"It's a pretty substantial upgrade in architecture," says
Kay. The Camino will allow graphics to run twice as
fast as they do on today's computers.

Intel hasn't actually said that it's releasing a new core
logic chipset. But three people familiar with the product
tell Barron's Online that Intel is working feverishly on it.
Among Camino's probable beneficiaries are Rambus, a
$1.6 billion DRAM maker that works closely with Intel
and , of course, the high-end graphics chip makers.

Rambus's DRAM is critical to making Camino work at
optimal levels, and Intel has endorsed the Rambus
architecture. That's a key reason the stock is getting
important support on Wall Street.

"It looks good to me like a pretty good investment," says
Drew Peck, a technology analyst at SG Cowen, who has
a Buy rating on Rambus stock. "As long as Intel stays
the course, we're barreling ahead towards Rambus as a
standard."

Over the last two months, three firms -- BancAmerica
Robertson Stephens, Morgan Stanley and Hambrecht and
Quist -- have upgraded their ratings on Rambus to Buy.
At Monday's closing price of 71 7/8, it's about a third off
its 52-week high of 109 1/2 that it set in September.

Peck's earnings estimate for Rambus is 32 cents a share
in the fiscal year ending September 1999, rising to $1.12
a share next year, and then more than tripling in fiscal
2001, to $4.00 a share. Based on his figures, its P/E of
62x for 2000 and 17x projected earnings for fiscal 2001
are significantly less than its rapid short-term growth
rates and its projected long-term annual earnings growth
of 75%.

Makers of graphics chips
also are eagerly awaiting
Camino. Already,
companies like S3 and ATI
have said they'll build their
own chipsets to handle the
faster and cheaper new 2D
and 3D programs Camino
would allow. The PC
graphics chips market is
expected to more than double over the next three years,
to $ 4.3 billion in 2002 from $2 billion today, according
to San Jose-based Dataquest, a unit of Gartner Group.

"ATI has a pretty good market share and pretty
impressive product offerings," says Voskoboynik of
Forum Capital. "They would probably be among the
better positioned to win the next round."

He's also bullish on S3,which he says is undergoing a
turnaround. After disappointing sales of its Savage3
chip, he said, the company, which has a market
capitalization of $410 million, installed new
management and has been fairly successful with a new
product, its recently released Savage4 (S4).

For revenues and earnings, the Savage4 chip is
significant. It "puts them back on recovery," says Dan
Scovel, a semiconductor analyst at Fahnestock &
Company, who has a Buy rating on the stock. His
12-month price target of 15 is almost double today's 8.
According to First Call, analysts expect the company to
lose 51 cents a share in 1999 and then earn 88 cents next
year, resulting in a very low P/E of nine times earnings
for 2000, which is significantly less than S3's projected
long-term growth rate of 22%.

Of course, there could be some glitches. Camino's
release could be further delayed. And though Rambus is
clearly the market leader, some PC companies consider
its DRAMs pricey. And some experts, like Voskoboynik,
are cautious on the whole graphics chip industry because
of fierce competition, price wars and weak demand from
Asia.

Still, says Scovel, "most people assume that Rambus
will be the dominant architecture."

And there aren't too many other technology companies
that could boast of that.



To: MileHigh who wrote (18692)4/15/1999 10:53:00 AM
From: Dave B  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93625
 
MH,

Sorry if it sounded like I was jumping down your throat. This is just one of those topics where I think people are getting way ahead of themselves (did you get the sense that you hit one of those "hot buttons" <G>). I'm sure that someday we'll also be able to catch a two-hour flight from LA to Sydney that flies through space, but I wouldn't say that the 777 is "dead". Gerstner's statement was pure b.s.

Re: the dumb box, I think we're there with the WebTV. I don't know how it's selling, but I do know one person who has one. He's also about my dad's age, and he uses it to print recipes off the Web, mostly. But, as I pointed out in my other post, he wouldn't have bought a computer, so it expanded the market, not replaced it. The WebTV has been out now for 2-3 years, does anyone else know of any users/owners (I'm taking a poll)?

Re: voice recognition, I'll bet we're still 5 years away from decent voice recognition. And even then it'll require a very, very high end computer. I haven't seen any reviews of any of the current VR products that says you can talk naturally and quickly to your computer -- most say that you can use them decently for basic commands only. And I don't know anyone who's rushing out to buy one. Does anyone on the thread know anyone who's regularly using voice recognition (Poll question #2)? Being able to talk to your PalmPilot in any decent context is probably 10-15 years away. Maybe further. I worked on a VR project in 1983, and the technology hasn't come all that far, quite honestly. The thing that has improved is the computing platform underneath it.

Re: the Qualcomm phone. Thanks for sending that article. It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out. I don't think personally that I'll want a cell phone that does all that other stuff (I just can't picture myself trying to surf the web while I'm driving <g>). Keep in mind that companies like Nortel and Lucent are trying to put together systems that will "read" your text e-mail to you (it's called unified messaging and Nortel has their CallPilot product out and Lucent has the Octel messaging system -- I think the Lucent system can already read your text message to you and Nortel is only a year away max) and let you dictate a message to send back as voice. Soon, once voice recognition really works, they'll let you dictate a message that can be sent as text. These systems already use voice recognition to let you navigate through your messages, respond to them, and forward them. For example, you can (using voice commands) forward a fax that you received in your e-mail box to the fax number at the hotel that you're staying at. I'd rather have a phone system that does that so that I can keep my hands on the wheel. And finally, if the Qualcomm phone is really valuable for e-mail and surfing, then I'd say you just have yourself a PC shaped like a phone. If those take off, then I'll bet Compaq, HP, and the rest will offer one.

Re: growth areas. I agree 100% that if we're trying to find areas that are going to grow very, very rapidly, it's not the PC business anymore (other than market share shifts within the industry) and that all these other ideas represent potentially faster growing areas. But, as the traditional business school models point out, of every 100 new product ideas, only about 2-4 will actually be successful, and only 1 of those will be wildly successful. I'd say, for example, that the cell phone was definitely one of those 1 in a 100 ideas. I'm not sure that cell phones with little tiny screens and itty-bitty keyboards will be. I'd put my money on Nortel instead, right now.

So I'm just babbling. Please feel free to argue, discuss, rant, whatever. I'm old enough to know that I don't know everything and that almost everything I've said is pure opinion, not fact.

Dave

p.s. Ultimately, I'm not arguing that all these things won't happen. I'm just mostly arguing the timing, how quickly you call something "dead", and which vendors will get us there. I believe that someday there will be a full PC in a wristwatch that you can talk to and will talk back to you in a very natural fashion. There will be a lot of steps in-between where we are now and where we'll be then, many of which will be false steps. But we'll get there. And I believe that it's very possible that at least one of the current PC vendors will have the foresight and leadership required to be a major player at that time.