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To: Yousef who wrote (55556)4/14/1999 11:56:00 PM
From: Process Boy  Respond to of 1574006
 
Yousef - < 18um Al follow on to their current .25um process for some time>

Thanks for the detailed response. I was not aware that AMD was continuing with the .18 on Al program. I pretty much got confirmation from AMD's 10k that MOT was going to be the Process Development arm of AMD.

I am going to be extremely curious to see how this approach plays out.
One has to wonder though how viable the .18 on Al process is when they also felt the need to contract MOT's process.

I freely admit that comprehending this approach confuses the hell out of me. Just background and training, I guess. I guess the best case scenario is if they don't need the Al process. If they do, things could get interesting.

PB



To: Yousef who wrote (55556)4/15/1999 12:12:00 AM
From: Cirruslvr  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1574006
 
Yousef - RE: "AMD has probably been working on a .18um Al follow on to
their current
.25um process for some time (just like Intel). Recently in the past 9
months,
AMD made the decision to purchase Motorolo's .18um Copper
process and bring
that up in Dresden. BTW, AMD is getting out of the process
development
"game" and will be purchasing all new processes from Motorolo
(.15um, .13um ...).
So, AMD will complete their development/extension to .18um
aluminum at
MegaFlop 25 (tm PREngel) while "copying" the Motorolo process
into Dresden.
I would guess this is also being done because AMD needs .18um
capability
before Dresden will be available, otherwise Intel will have a 3
speed bin
lead for 9-12 months ... This would further "kill" AMD ASP's and
lead to
even "more significant" losses. <ggg>"

Has Motorola ever had production problems?

Has their previous process technology been up to par?

Isn't the AMD "copying" (as you refer to it) of the Motorola process to Dresden sort of like Intel's "copy-exactly" process?



To: Yousef who wrote (55556)4/15/1999 12:23:00 PM
From: Scumbria  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574006
 
Yousef,

How are your AMD shorts doing today? June is only 6 weeks away and K7 is coming soon!

AMD 11:59AM 16 +1 1/4 +8.47% 2,597,200

Scumbria