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To: uu who wrote (15461)4/15/1999 8:25:00 PM
From: Byron Xiao  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
You are right, Addi. There are a lot of uncertainties in the 2nd half of the year. Michael Lehman's comment on next Q's revenue growth isn't really that upbeat. I think that SUNW will go down more from here. However, I am not sure 39-42, not sure we will get down that far. I am setting a GTC order of 50, will average down if it dips more.



To: uu who wrote (15461)4/15/1999 11:26:00 PM
From: JC Jaros  Respond to of 64865
 
I will however definitely be buying my shares back if (and of course this is a if) the stock comes down to $39-$42/shr (or $78-$84 pre-split.

Addi- As memory serves, this is the exactly the same thing you did *last spring (dumped yourself out of SUNW and waited for a low re-entry price that never came). Are you finding 'trading' to be more profitable than 'buying and holding'?

I think we're at a completely different place than we have been in the past. I don't think you can apply historical PEs. The gearing up into services and software is at hand, and to a large degree, we've been discovered. The steady double digit growth rate compares increasingly well against other equities chasing investment dollars. I feel that it isn't at all reasonable to expect SUNW's share price to drop to ~$40. It's even less reasonable than expecting it to dip into the ~$20s (pre split) for a buying op, as you did LAST year.

IMHO

-JCJ



To: uu who wrote (15461)4/16/1999 6:24:00 AM
From: puborectalis  Respond to of 64865
 
Sun sees bright future
By Stephen Shankland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
April 15, 1999, 5:30 p.m. PT

Sun expects it'll be another year before its partnership with America Online starts
to pay off.

The complex deal, a software partnership that grew out of America Online's acquisition of
Netscape, will have a neutral effect on earnings per share for the next four quarters, before
starting to produce profits in the two years after that, chief financial officer Mike Lehman
said after the company reported its third-quarter earnings today. (See related story)

"We're invested heavily" in the alliance of 2,000 to 2,500 total AOL and Sun employees,
added chief executive Scott McNealy. "I think it's going very well, but don't expect it to hit
escape velocity for another 12 months."

Sun reported net income of 36 cents per diluted share on revenue of $2.936 billion, edging
past Wall Street estimates of 35 cents per share expected by the consensus of analysts
surveyed by First Call. The earnings per share figures reflect a two-for-one stock split April
8.

Revenue grew 24 percent to $2.94 billion from the like quarter a year ago, and net income
grew 26 percent to $291.4 million the like quarter a year ago.

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Though Sun stock dipped $2 to $60.5625 in trading today, the stock overall has been rising
steadily since October, reaching an all-time high of $72.5 per share last week. Analysts
attribute the performance to the company's successful strategy of supplying infrastructure
for the Internet.

The company hasn't been affected by the woes that afflicted Compaq, but Sun is still being
cautious for upcoming quarters, McNealy said. "We're not expecting any major problems
in calendar 1999," but still has to worry about several big issues, such as the year 2000
problem, the rollout of the company's new "Cheetah" UltraSparc III chip, the AOL alliance,
and sales in Japan.

McNealy described a "heartbreak hill" that some computer makers are facing, but added,
"If there is any slowdown, we think we can take huge advantage of it."

Overall, Sun was bullish on its future. "Clearly network computing 20 years from now will
be a very, very, very big business compared to now. I think we've got a pretty good shot at
being one of the big two," McNealy said, drawing a parallel between computer companies
of the future to the Ford and GM automobile titans of today.

The company hired 1,350 new employees in the last quarter, and plans to continue at a
somewhat more modest rate during the current quarter, Lehman said.

Much of that hiring is increasing the employee count in Sun's
services business, now with 1,500 employees. The services
area is a part of the business where McNealy admitted being
behind IBM's famed global services division, but services
proved profitable for Sun in the last quarter, with more
companies willing to buy expensive "platinum" level support.

Other hiring will be in research and development, sales,
marketing, and advertising, Lehman said.

Cheetah gaining speed
Sun will be investing heavily in the upcoming UltraSparc III
chip, code-named Cheetah, McNealy said.

The first prototypes will be etched into silicon this month,
said chief operating officer Ed Zander, and the chip will arrive
in systems in the first half of calendar year 2000.

The chip will debut at a clock speed of 600 MHz and a
feature size of 0.18 microns, Zander said. It has 25 million
transistors and is designed to work by itself or teamed with
hundreds of brethren.

"Cheetah has taped out, along with the chipset," McNealy
said. "Now the heavy lifting and heavy spending begins."
Developing a chip is considerably cheaper than
manufacturing it and turn it into a selling product, McNealy said.

Merced, Intel's first 64-bit chip, is following a similar time line, but Zander said: "We don't
believe Merced is even close" in terms of performance.

Zander also took a potshot at the other half of the Wintel duopoly, saying that Sun's
Solaris 7 Unix operating system is two to three years ahead of Microsoft's Windows 2000.

Fighting for the storage market
Countering the hype about storage area networking, McNealy offered a more conservative
vision for its plans in handling companies' storage needs.

Storage area networks (SANs) split off storage into a separate pool of disk drives, a big
change from the currently popular setup where each server has its own storage system.

But McNealy said that in the future companies will rely ever more heavily on their computer
systems and will not be able to afford having them go down. As a result, they'll be
disinclined to "mix and match" components from different vendors, McNealy said,
and Sun will benefit because it sells both storage and servers guaranteed to work
well together.

The strategy is aimed down the throat of Sun's chief storage competitor, EMC,
which Zander acknowledged as being "a tough competitor."

In other news
Sun has a vast product line, and the company accordingly had a long list of updates
for analysts. Among the announcements:

• Sun said demand is still strong for its high-end Starfire server.

• About 10,000 companies and individuals have signed up for Sun's Community
Source License program, Zander said. The program lets people look at the source
code of Java and other Sun technologies without having to pay royalties unless
products using the technology are sold.

• A total of 200 companies have signed up through the Community Source License
program to look at Sun's Java chip designs, Zander said.

• Since Sun acquired NetDynamics last fall, the installed base has increased
tenfold, McNealy said. NetDynamics makes software that delivers customized Web
pages by fetching information from a company's servers.

Related news stories
• Sun, Premiere in universal messaging pact April 13, 1999
• Sun's stock also rises March 30, 1999
• AOL, Sun detail software tie-up March 30, 1999



To: uu who wrote (15461)4/16/1999 8:46:00 AM
From: JDN  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
Dear Addi; Gosh, I think you are getting more and more conservative. In my judgement there is no chance of SUNW falling to your indicated levels unless there is a terrible market sell off in general. Personally, I would consider any opportunity to acquire more SUNW stock at 50 or below and frankly, I question whether that target will even be reached. JDN



To: uu who wrote (15461)4/19/1999 2:32:00 PM
From: lizardK  Respond to of 64865
 
Addi said:
If I were you I would not jump in right away as I believe you may have the chance to buy the stock at much lower prices. I no longer own the stock as I sold all my shares a couple of weeks ago. Historically SUNW trades at 30-40% below its price prior to its split once the split actually takes place, I think one problem Sun may also run into in the short term would be lack of capital spendings by corporations due to Y2K. On the other hand e-commerce is taking off big time along with an explosive growth of so many internet content providers. So who
knows Sun may not run into revenue shortfall in the short term after all!


Good call Addi. I remember when you were sparring with some "knuckle dragger" who kept harping being short SUNW and it was going down to 58
(29 post-split). You really laid wood to that moron.

Looking to re-enter SUNW myself as I sold all at 136 last month. Could be getting close, don't you think?