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To: Process Boy who wrote (55753)4/16/1999 6:40:00 PM
From: Scumbria  Respond to of 1579026
 
PB,

How reliable of a gauge would these simulated values be? do they take into account redundancy features of the respective caches? Just curious.

Cache hit/miss rates can be reliably simulated from a trace simulator. Unfortunately that is the only reliable feature.

Scumbria




To: Process Boy who wrote (55753)4/16/1999 6:48:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579026
 
<How reliable of a gauge would these simulated values be? do they take into account redundancy features of the respective caches? Just curious.>

I don't think these simulated values are reliable. There are way too many variables, like cache-replacement policies, the number of ways per set (2-way, 4-way, direct-mapped), the traffic pattern generated by the decoders and execution units, and so on.

But in general, they do reflect the expectation that the cache miss ratios for Coppermine should be higher than the miss ratios for K7. This is so because the K7 has larger caches than Coppermine. This has little to do with how fast those caches are, however.

I'm also very surprised that there were cases where the IPC (instructions per cycles) of Coppermine are higher than that of K7, given that the K7 has more execution units and deeper buffers than Coppermine. That's why I think those IPC values are also suspect.

Tenchusatsu