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To: Ilaine who wrote (35066)	4/17/1999 12:42:00 PM
From: jbe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Cobalt...On: Eleanor of Aquitane Even better, the goodies that come with being the right man's wife... If I recall correctly, according to the doctrine of chivalric love developed at Eleanor's court, love was impossible between husband and wife. Marriages were arranged, purely social contracts that had nothing to do with love. And "chivalric love" -- between Lady and Lover -- had nothing to do with consummation. In fact, ideally it was NOT consummated. The essence of chivalric love was the total devotion of the Lover to the Lady -- "dominion", as you put it. The devotion was ritualized to a high degree. Joan

To: Ilaine who wrote (35066)	4/17/1999 5:49:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Remember, this took place in Medieval France, and remember the privations of the girls who became governesses rather than wives Or the privations of the girls who became wives to anything but the 5% of men on top of the socioeconomic heap. The same conditions apply in the country I live in, and in fact in most of the world, today. In these parts, a woman who selects a man on any grounds other than money and social status is regarded as weak in the head. Which is not to say that love is not involved. Wealth is simply the principal criterion for falling in love. The relative equality found in the US and Europe is more the exception than the rule.