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Gold/Mining/Energy : Global Thermoelectric - SOFC Fuel cells (GLE:TSE) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: michael a. rowe who wrote (1144)	4/20/1999 9:52:00 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6016

There's also a humongous amount of Ballard paper out - what is the market cap, four billions or so? .... at the close today, Global was worth 148mil Canadian - less than 100mil US ... and i don't think you can ignore the market action of recent days, any more than you can ignore the Delphi deal ..... I remember when people were talking like this about Ballard, it wasn't that long ago. mike, i know you're retaliating for what you perceive to be gle spam on the bld thread, and yes i know - they started it .... but it does seem like we could have a more constructive conversation here by branching out beyond a bld/gle pissing match. Ballard is on Hot Subjects, btw ... 457% last time I looked .... cheers

To: michael a. rowe who wrote (1144)	4/20/1999 10:09:00 PM
From: 1st.mate	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6016

GLE is 100% speculation, look at what the company has released...from that people on this thread have said its all over for ballard and GLE will be the cell of choice...they dont even have a deal. Mike,Gle is presently making a profit, something that Ballard is not...Ballard has invented the wheele and now GLE is fine tuning the race engine....The speculation comes in as we could easily get 10X from here over the next couple of years and you may(if you are lucky) see a double...Your fear of the market turning their attention to this stock is very evident and it is people like you that will make it happen...You are forcing every one to compare products...It is ovious what people will think, as you show it now!!! Ballard has many deals with many companies....many. True and you have got your runs out of them, but it is now someone elses turn, RIGHT or you would not be here worried!!! And what you say about ballard and the need to advance fuel delivery systems, public perseption, production costs etc.... its just a bunch of hot air... This statement is BS,...He has an opinion and you offer a one liner to try to discredit...It will not work as the market is bigger than you!!!I realise that most want you to ramble on as you bring life and credibility to gle's product...I perfer to hear the facts...GLE is settling to a good trading pattern and has stabilized until the next news!!! The public already wants and needs ballards technology. Good, they will establish a market for a better product...Yes gle will market a better, more powerful product...But time will tell, and I am here to wait.. The cost to produce a ballard fuel cell at this stage is irrelevent, mass production will bring the costs down, thats what mass production does. I disagree, they have to take a different approach to reduce costs, and you know it...Otherwise you would not be here fear mongling!!! Fuel delivery systems/reforming technology/nanotubes etc...currently being worked on...we see today that the oil companies...granted only 3 of the biggest today....are in on the latest california testing program....its obvious that these companies are finally seeing that they are fuel delivery companies and in the future they will delivery different fuels.....ballard has stated and it is obvious that their participation is required for success and now we are seeing it. Yes it is ovious that Ballard has a long way to go and many problems to overcome, That is why they are overvalued and are expected to drop in price until they solve their hugh problems!!!While this is happening to Ballard, I expect GLE to go through the growth that Ballard seen 2 years ago but much quicker, thanks to ballard!!! The date for fuel cell powered cars is a few years away and there will be ups and downs but in the end ballard had got them on the road and the backing of almost everyone....gle has a maybe deal. The way I see it is Ballard maybe able to work out their problems and GLE will likely get their product into a car!!!<ggg> your just dreaming of being rich....I know that multipling a big number of shares by a big number gets you there quicker...thats why you like gle over ballard....if you look at the facts ballard blows gle away. Yes it is true that the upside potential of GLE is greater here than Ballard, no question, and it is why I like GLE better also abd it is why Ballard will loose share price to GLE I have stated the facts and NOGLE blows me away, that and your ignorance and one sided blind faith... I have no intention of continuing this crap with you and I am very happy with my position...CHIEF, I had to have a piece, but I knew better!!!<ggg>I know he is doing us a favour but is nice to tell it like it is once in a while...:-)Matey

To: michael a. rowe who wrote (1144)	4/20/1999 10:10:00 PM
From: blue_chip	Respond to of 6016

Actually, I do not hold alot of GLE, as said before, about 5% of my holdings. I also could have been in and out 2 or 3 times since I bought it but I havent. I guess both companies are speculation at this point. GLE speculating their fuel cell will work in cars, Delphi (a subsidiary of GM) speculating it will work. POSSIBLY Toyota speculating that it may work. Myself speculating that it may work. Ballard speculating they will make it to market. I guess thats what development is all about. Even myself speculating Ballard wont get to market with what they currently have. However this is a GLE board, don't expect to post negative speculation without backing it up. Yes I think we need to hear both sides. Yes I think there is alot of hype and speculation on this board relative to price. I dont worry about the price, I think about the technology. If the technology is good, the price will follow. I have made no comments relative to how rich I could be if this worked or have said anything like I see it hitting $50.00 on this board, you know what I mean. If I really wanted to cut down Ballard I would do it on the Ballard board, but I havent. We are new, we need something to compare our technology to, how it differes from that in the industry, and its relative strengths, be they real, percieved, believed, or even speculation. I point out what I feel are those strengths relative to Ballard, but I dont do it on the Ballard board. Understanding the competition is key to understanding potential strengths of a company. I tell you what, I will hold out an olive branch and call a truce, I will stop questioning your posts, if you simply explain the rationale or logic behind yours when you post them. If your going to say GLE will never make it in a car, say why. We can all then either agree or disagree on your statement, however when you dont elaborate on some statements your posts have no validity. Again, its not the statements you make, its the lack of evidence or thoughts to back them up. The same could be said for alot of the hyped posts on this thread. I feel they do as much harm to a stock as negative posts, and are a disservice to those who wish to learn.