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To: Neocon who wrote (4856)4/21/1999 2:33:00 AM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
Time for me to punch the clock and call it a night. Yep I post from work! Its great working for an ISP ;)

Goodnight, more tomorrow.



To: Neocon who wrote (4856)4/21/1999 6:39:00 PM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
<<Durkheim would love it. This is the sociological aspect of the problem of modernity that I brought up in our philosophical exchanges. Even though tradition persists, it changes character automatically through having lost its "taken-for- grantedness". The social organization of traditional societies, so dependent on the clan and tribe, on the sense of place for the individual, is eroded, and the individual becomes "rootless". Nationalism was, in part, a response to these changes, which is why it particularly grew in the 19th century, to supplant the local character of loyalties and provide a more comprehensive identification>>

Its a paradox that the division of labor produces a structural emphasis on the individual, erodes tradition and conformist forces and allows the individual greater liberty at expression, and yet that very "setting free" undermines networks and institutions that integrate the individual in the society. So what the industrial revolution has wrought, is greater individual freedom, but also (in terms of social cohesion) over-individuates and produces anomie, social incohesion. The individual is freer to choose its own destiny, and yet feels like it is lost in a sea of impersonal forces. As you said, this is the source of emotion-grounded movements such as nationalism, religious emotivism, etc. The individual seeks to form a network, to "belong," to alleviate the sense of being cast adrift in an uncaring and meaningless world.

It would be interesting to consider what the Internet has done to produce a sense of community in this context.

Id nearly forgotten my love affair with Durkheim. I had a copy of "Division of Labor" which I literally read till it fell apart in tatters! :)