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To: Bear Down who wrote (678)4/22/1999 5:19:00 PM
From: jjs64  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 10354
 
Did anyone peruse the list of criminals caught in the Golf Ventures sting? Did you see this name..."George Panagiotou", this name "Mark Savage" and this name "Dean Verrigni."

Upon further DD, it turns out our friends Mr. Panagiotou, Mr. Savage and Mr. Verrigni have been involved with Peter Tosto aka Peter Lybrand of CTRN/ECTS/POLU/SMEK/IVHD fame!

FG and other doubters....Study this document carefully, "He who does not learn from history is doomed to repeat it."

U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission

Securities Act of 1933
Release No. 33-7339 / September 26, 1996

Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Release No. 34-37734 / September 26, 1996

Administrative Proceeding File Number 3-9104

PUBLIC ADMINISTRATIVE AND CEASE-AND-DESIST PROCEEDINGS INSTITUTED AGAINST PETER TOSTO AND OTHERS IN CONNECTION WITH KICKBACK SCHEME

The Securities and Exchange Commission instituted cease-and-desist proceedings against Peter Tosto and his company, Investor Relations, Inc., and public administrative proceedings and cease-and-desist proceedings against three registered
representatives (RRs), George Panagiotou, Mark Savage and Dean Verrigni, pursuant to Section 8A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Sections 15(b), 19(h) and 21C of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, in connection with a scheme in which each respondent RR
received, or arranged for other RRs to receive, undisclosed
kickbacks for selling San Diego Bancorp (SDB) stock to public
customers.

The Order Instituting Proceedings alleges that Tosto,
individually and through his company, IRI, orchestrated a
kickback scheme to sell SDB stock. Tosto was paid by a major SDB
stockholder to generate this market activity in a stock which
otherwise had a relatively illiquid market, to enable that
shareholder to sell his stock. Tosto used some of the money to
pay Panagiotou, Savage and Verrigni to generate buying activity.
These individuals or RRs they recruited sold SDB stock to
customers without revealing to the customers that the RRs were
being paid to recommend the stock. The Order also alleges that
Tosto made misrepresentations, individually and through IRI, in
connection with placing purchase orders for that stock, thereby
causing substantial losses to a broker-dealer. Panagiotou
participated in the making of those misrepresentations to the
broker-dealer.

To translate....even the IR firm can be caught. Look at what this CRIMINAL IR firm did, is Veritas any better? Probably not.

Buyer Beware!



To: Bear Down who wrote (678)4/22/1999 7:13:00 PM
From: Francois Goelo  Respond to of 10354
 
Bear Down, thanks for your concern and it's truly nice to hear from you again...

What you see as red flags, because you have a certain bias, I mostly do not, because I have the opposite bias, so the Truth, if it can be defined, must exist somewhere in the middle.

I do agree on a limited number of points: the last release was not worded in a helpful manner and should have come with figures. It would have been far better if ZSUN had chosen a better known firm of Auditors, but I understand their reasoning: they are comfortable with that particular firm which probably give them a decent deal. In addition, ZSUN shouldn't bother to post its releases on the thread.

There is not much difference in quality of Audit work between the larger firm and the medium sized ones. The main difference is in term of cost and flexibility. Any auditing firm will have members sued and found wanting in the way they executed their work. Any firm will unknowingly deal with customers who have broken or will break the Law. It's really no big deal.

I have no reason to believe that the firm that did their Audit didn't do a creditable job, bearing in mind it will support ZSUN's application to list on NASDAQ. Flodyie and Co may well be right when they say that ZSUN evolved from Bestway/BEVEX/FTFR, I don't know exactly which. As I understand it, they had an ingenious product that failed to perform to expectation in the field and resulted in a serious set back. They must have regrouped and ZSUN was born.

While you guys are looking into the past, I am only interested in the future and as far as I can tell, I do not believe that the past will prove to be a liability for ZSUN, in fact, I would say, quite the contrary. What do I see?

Earnings for 1999 in the 45/55 cents range, with the Seminar Company pulling in tremendous revenues due to the overseas expansion, supported by the various ZSUN divisions that are also growing very fast, NASDAQ listing before year's end, share price between $50 and $80 by then and a potential acquisition by a major player one to two years down the road.

You know me enough by now, Bear Down, to be well aware that, should I ever find out ZSUN is not all it's purported to be, I would have no hesitation to sell my shares immediately, even at a loss, and become one of its most ardent detractor, as I have done in the past when I found out the truth about DCHT.

So, for the time being, I will remain on my side of the equation and wish you well on your side.

Regards, F. Goelo + + +