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To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (32392)	4/23/1999 10:19:00 AM
From: Dipsey	Respond to of 116796

Lee - Well said! Regards, Dipsey

To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (32392)	4/23/1999 10:45:00 AM
From: Bobby Yellin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116796

o/t Hi-don't think you push violence at all.. probably a lot push to the other extreme..but sometimes having heroes as dads is a hard act to follow..also some military men ie the exaggeration of the great santini..have a lot of rules and regulations.. also a lot of military families move around a lot and then the kids in early childhood are always having to adapt to a new scene.. also what happens when a military person might have a very sensitive son.. a lot of sensitive kids do kill themselves ..easier to do it with another..but the way these kids did it.. with homemade bombs etc and killing other kids.. the understatement ---"it is unusual" again where were the parents when they kids were building all the contraptions.. even in a rotten society..there are a lot of wonderful parents who help see their children through difficult times..or else when they can't reach the kid..get help

To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (32392)	4/23/1999 11:01:00 AM
From: hunchback	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116796

Thank you for your post. I agree with you that it is hard to be the kind of decent father you want to be today. You can influence your children for only so long before TV and stupid people, or stupid people's children, takeover. I believe the true problem is that a generation of people focus on happiness, instead of an internal sense of what is right and wrong. When you don't feel happy anymore there is no purpose or guidelines in how to react, other than destructively. One of the best gifts children can give you, if you pay attention, is that they reaffirm your values by questioning them. Focus on right and wrong in your own life. Sacrifice your own personal happiness for your own personal responsibility. You have a duty to society to be the kind of person you want your children to become. What does this have to do with gold? Economies have collapsed in history after values collapse. hunchback