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To: Spamboy who wrote (2434)4/23/1999 3:47:00 AM
From: Mary Baker  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 4128
 
Kowboy without a doubt that was the most eloquent and thoughtful
writing I have come across in a long while. You deserve to be applauded for your sincerity in explaining your take on things.

You have shown the human side for all of us and because of that, I have the utmost respect for you!

Aloha from Hawaii, Kowboy!

Mary



To: Spamboy who wrote (2434)4/23/1999 8:24:00 AM
From: zonkie  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 4128
 
I don't give a goddamn about you or anybody in your family. Your long winded post is nothing but lies.

z.......



To: Spamboy who wrote (2434)4/23/1999 9:14:00 AM
From: TideGlider  Respond to of 4128
 
Gee....was Heather at the beach?



To: Spamboy who wrote (2434)4/23/1999 9:16:00 AM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4128
 
Kowboy, sorry, your post is full of absolute lies and can not be tolerated. It is very rare for me to quote something from personal e-mail but when it comes to protecting the interests at the public at large I have no choice. Last night I politely suggested to your wife that you contact the Vancouver Stock Exchange to verify for yourself that Mr. Gerald E. Sklar was not only convicted but put on the "undesirable individuals" list and given a sentence of permanent expulsion. This is as bad as it gets.

She wrote:

About calling Canada....to be honest it's on his To Do List. We have children and a life outside of the stock arena, so that does take some priority. He has not refused, just hasn't done so yet. Big difference I believe.

While I commend you for apparently being a good father, and while I think being a good parent is far and away more important than being a good investor, I think you owe all your "followers" out there a few minutes of you time to call the VSE today and hear the TRUTH for yourself.

Now, moving on, you also state:

To date, the ONLY thing that I have found or has been brought to my attention that could possibly be considered a "concern" about Mr. Sklar happened over a decade ago and even that event was evidently not important enough for him to be convicted of anything.

Are you insane? There's a printed verifiable record you can reference. And it wasn't some slap on the wrist, it was three years. And it wasn't over a decade ago, the suspension went from '89-'92. And it wasn't his first time nor his last time.

The commission found Sklar's behaviour to be prejudicial to the public interest and ordered the removal of his trading exemptions for three years. Sklar is also prohibited from acting as a director or officer of a public company for three years and will be required to pay costs of the hearing.

Source: wwwf.canada-stockwatch.com

As for ABFG doing what they said:

1. They have NO properties in Madagascar. Zippo. Nada. Zilch. I even posted the document number for you to verify for yourself. Did you do that? No, you did not.

2. Did they have a dinner or a meeting at the White House? No, they did not.

3. Did they have a meeting with VP Gore to discuss ABFG getting all mining rights to Madagascar and to discuss an endorsement? No, they did not.

4. Did they alter images on their web site to fool and mislead people that they had mining equipment? Yes they did.

5. When filing their Form 15c21-1 with the SEC, did they use photos of mining equipment and reference data taken from an old Riosun prospectus done by consultant Ronald Stokes? Yes they did.

I could go on but you get the picture. You are deceiving people whether you mean to or not. Based on what I now see in the referenced post, it is my belief you are willingly and knowingly deceiving people. You are put on notice that if you wish to claim to speak for ABFG you'd better get your facts straight and quick.

- Jeff



To: Spamboy who wrote (2434)4/23/1999 9:20:00 AM
From: don ady  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4128
 
Who wrote this drivel anyway. It certainly wasn't you Kowpoke, D.C. Likes. Wait 'til May 15th. Yah sure ands by that time Gerald and the gang will have raped the investor and blown dodge. What is wrong with right know and why can you not answer the questions still outstanding, phone numbers etc. We await.



To: Spamboy who wrote (2434)4/23/1999 9:21:00 AM
From: Josef Svejk  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4128
 
Humbly report, Kowboy, just to add to what others have said regarding your #reply-9096337 :

Had a GREAT time with my 6 yr old son buildin' sand castles and jest horsin' around! It was great fun!

Do you often return from the beach with your 6 yr old son around 2:19AM EST?

I have not heard of one single complaint about their products, service or the value they offer their customers. Not one! Please correct me if I'm wrong. Has anyone else?

#reply-8542354

As for the rest of your post, can you hear me playing the violin?

Cheers,

Svejk
proofsheet.com



To: Spamboy who wrote (2434)4/23/1999 9:31:00 AM
From: zonkie  Respond to of 4128
 
The company doesn't lie. Where is the financial report that was promised to be out last by last tuesday?

z........



To: Spamboy who wrote (2434)4/23/1999 10:31:00 AM
From: Janice Shell  Respond to of 4128
 
None of us know ANYTHING about each other.

I take your general point, but in the specific sense it's not true. Some of us know a great deal about each other.

At literally EVERY turn, ABFG has been more than cooperative and in many cases have gone out of their way to make sure I received the answers to all my questions and concerns.

How so? That's certainly not my impression. They've fed you a good deal of misinformation, and when caught try to hand the responsibility for their "mistakes" on to you. They can't even manage to tell you where their mines are. This is information they should have at their fingertips, obviously. And since it must be registered with the Mines Branch, it's scarcely secret.

And then earlier this week they primed you to announce that "something" would happen to stock price in the "next 20-60 minutes". And sure enough, there was a nice little rally. I'm not joking at all when I say you could be nailed for market manipulation. A year ago a loose group of people who became known as the "Rocketeers" did for three stocks--MTEI, INFE, and DGIV--what you're doing for ABFG. Let's take the best known of the group, macker. macker was a relatively inexperienced investor; like you, he didn't know much about penny stocks. His early enthusiasm drew the attention of company officials and promoters associated with them. Were they "cooperative" with him? You bet. Bent over backwards to feed him "information". He found this treatment flattering; they claimed to respect his opinion, be grateful for his help, all that. Let him in on conference calls and the like. He disseminated the "information" received here at SI, and did a good deal of heavy hyping. Stock price for all three issues soared, and he became the Rocketeer Guru. People asked him for advice, hung on his every word.

What happened next? Well, we began to do a little work on MTEI. Our criticisms and questions were met with the kind of hostility that's been expressed here on this thread: I mean it when I say we've heard all this stuff before. In the end we were proved absolutely right: the SEC halted trading and the company closed its doors a few weeks later. Many people lost a great deal of money.

What of macker? His former followers turned on him viciously. Blamed him for more, perhaps, than he was actually responsible for. Now, as I said in an earlier post, he and others are under investigation by the SEC, and they're not having a good time.

I think it's time you asked yourself to what extent you're being used by ABFG, and what might come of that.