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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Liatris Spicata who wrote (12219)4/23/1999 11:00:00 PM
From: Catfish  Respond to of 13994
 
Larry,
The Jackson quote is one of those that I have stored in personal memory. I don't if there is a URL listing this or not although there are several sites with excellent quote material. I will try to find the source later, but I am afraid that I might have to dig out an old college textbook.

I shudder to think of Hillary involved in anything involving moral guidance for anyone.....seems awfully hypocritical to me.

Below is a quote taken from the Neal Boortz web site:
boortz.com


PUNISHABLE AS A "HATE CRIME?"

Here is a message that appeared on the dejanews.com chat site yesterday afternoon. This is a message of violent hatred posted by an apparent homosexual against straights. Now, if this turns out to be a crime perpetrated by homosexuals against straight, white males it would not be covered by the so-called hate crime legislation that has become all the rage.

Columbine HS, The Gay Alamo

Author: queen_jeff <queen_jeff@my-dejanews.com>

Date: 1999/04/20

Forum: alt.motorcycles.harley

Greetings Gay Bikers,

Today, a bunch of our fellow homosexuals at Columbine HS in Denver Colorado, known as the Trench Coat Mafia, decided that they had taken enough crap from the straight community that had been abusing them and have decided to take matters into their own hands. We should all applaud their bravery and hope that they can hold out as long as possible in their fight for gay people everywhere. We can only hope that they can turn this into the gay alamo and hold out for 13 days of glory. If they can hold out for two days I think gay bikers everywhere should considering riding into Denver as a relief force to fight alongside them.

We need to show solidarity!!!

Queen Jeff



To: Liatris Spicata who wrote (12219)4/24/1999 10:00:00 PM
From: Catfish  Respond to of 13994
 
Clinton's Balkan Refugee Secret

www.newsmax.com
April 23, 1999 Carl Limbacher

Vice President Al Gore announced on Wednesday that the U.S. would welcome up to 20,000 Kosovar refugees to the American mainland, scuttling an earlier plan for emergency resettlement at Guantanamo Bay.

The administration claimed that the Guantanamo option was ditched after the displaced Kosovars rejected the idea of being relocated so far from their homeland. Yet neither Gore nor anyone else explained why the equally distant American mainland was geographically more acceptable.

What the Vice President and the reporters who covered his refugee announcement failed to mention is this: the 20,000 Albanian Kosovars would be just the latest Balkan influx to hit American shores since the U.S. became embroiled in that European conflict. In fact, since the mid-90's, America has resettled over 80,000 displaced persons from the region, mainly Bosnian Muslims, primarily to the American mid-west.

Moreover, America's largest meat processing company, which just happens to have a curious link to Clinton-friendly Tyson Foods, has done very well by the deluge of hardworking Balkan refugees willing to take their dangerous non-union jobs.

A case in point: The small town of Waterloo, Iowa, population 65,000, has been overwhelmed since 1995 with resettled Bosnians, many of whom find their first work at the local meat processing plant. Until recently Bosnian immigrants made up nearly a third of the 2,000 strong workforce at Iowa Beef Processors, Inc.'s Waterloo plant.

Over the last few years Waterloo has taken in about 6,000 Bosnians, nearly 10% of the town's entire population. The new immigrants are recruited by IBP for rough and tumble meatpacking jobs at below union wages. The influx of Bosnians to Iowa has made the state the only one in the nation with its own refugee bureau.

In fact, the U.S. meat-packing industry has a history of recruiting workers on-site in Yugoslavia going back to the 1920's; though, thanks to America's recent Bosnia entanglement, IBP generally has to look no further than Chicago for eager refugee labor.

IBP became dominant in it's industry after successfully challenging major competitors like Hormel and Armour; companies which generally offered better paying unionized work to American citizens. Before IBP hit the jackpot with the new Bosnian labor pool, the company actively recruited Mexican and Vietnamese workers.

And what about IBP's Clinton-Tyson connection? The link is through Hudson Foods.

In August 1997 Arkansas' Hudson Foods was pretty much run out of business after the Clinton Dept. of Agriculture determined that e-coli contamination of its ground beef had sickened 16 people in Colorado. Though no one died, within days the USDA ordered millions of pounds of beef recalled. The alarm caused Hudson's major beef buyer Burger King to cancel its contract. Meat industry executives were stunned at the USDA's heavy-handed tactics.

Hudson was primarily a chicken processing operation that had branched out into beef and pork, with plants outside Arkansas like the one where the e-coli problem was discovered. And Tyson Foods, notorious as a longtime Clinton backer with a history of winning favorable treatment from his state and federal administrations, had long been interested in acquiring Hudson.

But Hudson was never interested in selling out until the Clinton USDA struck. Then the Tyson deal became an offer Hudson couldn't refuse.

Still, Tyson didn't want Hudson's beef processing plant, the one where the USDA first found the e-coli contamination. For that another buyer had to be located.

That buyer? Iowa Beef Processors, the same company which made out so handsomely when Bill Clinton's Balkan refugees began streaming into America.

Small world.

freerepublic.com



To: Liatris Spicata who wrote (12219)4/24/1999 10:11:00 PM
From: Catfish  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 13994
 
Institutionlized Selfishness, Clinton and Angry Children on the Rampage - Why are Children shooting Children?

Original Sources
April 22, 1999 Mary Mostert Original Sources (www.originalsources.com

It was 13 months ago that the America was asking itself the same questions about children shooting children that it is asking today. Yesterday's angry young men shooting down students and teachers in cold blood brought back all the same discussions, all the same quick exploitation of the tragedy for political gain in making it ever more difficult to own a firearm is more of what we hear just over a year ago. With that in mind, I dug up my column from last year on the subject. After re-reading it, I believe it stands the test of time. It's still true. Our slide into cultural chaos seems to be right on track.

Mary Mostert

March 26,1998 -How do children get their parents attention in a culture that has put children at the bottom of the family's priority list? Well, ambushing and shooting a few of their classmates with a hunting rifle seems to work. Nothing much else has in recent years.

The massacre in Jonesboro, Arkansas, perpetrated by two boys, Andrew Golden, aged eleven and Michael Johnson, aged thirteen, seems to have jolted the American people. It is the third such shooting in five months, but the first two shootings did not seem to create the same level of public concern somehow.

The airwaves are full of knee-jerk reactions and "solutions" to the "problem" of angry, violent children. What new piece of legislation should we pass to "solve" such a problem.? Can we toughen the gun bans? (Perhaps, but, the crime was committed with a hunting rifle.) Can we pass a federal law requiring children to be tried as adults, when they do this sort of thing? (But, what should be the new age of adulthood? Eleven? Ten? Thirteen?)

Actually, what, exactly, is the problem? Apparently, from reports coming out of Jonesboro, this event happened because the 13 year old Michael was angry at being jilted by his girlfriend and warned that something would happen the next day.

A neighbor of the Goldens, Lloyd Brooks, the father of a 12 year old girl, had warned his daughter to keep away from 11 year old Andrew, who, with his cousin, 13 year old Michael, were arrested for the ambush.

"I wouldn't let her play with this kid because - it's mean to say - he was so demented," Brooks told AP reporter Allen Breed. "He was always threatening people."

Michael Johnson, according to children who knew him, had claimed to be part of a gang, and also "spoke about wanting to hurt people." On the day before the shooting, Michael had told Melinda Henson, 13,: "Tomorrow you all find out if you live or die."

Melinda asked, "What's that supposed to mean?" Michael's only response was, "You'll find out tomorrow."

The two boys talked about hurting people and were angry. Michael took his stepfather's van without permission, skipped school on Tuesday and by Wednesday they had been charged with five counts of murder and ten counts each of first-degree batttery. The President asked Attorney General Janet Reno to "investigate" this, the third school shooting in the last five months. "I do think we've reached the point where we have to analyze these incidents to see whether or not we can learn anything (and) what we can do to prevent further ones," Clinton said.

What, indeed, can we do to prevent further shootings at schools? For a number of years the school violence problem had been escalating to the point that law enforcement agencies recognize the local high schools as a dangerous place to be. The U.S. Department of Education 1995 figures for Crime in the Schools extracted from The Condition of Education 1995 National Center for Education Statistics, Washington, DC; 202/219-1651 revealed:

Data are 1993 victimization rates of high school seniors at school. Percentage of seniors reporting victimization, by type of victimization and race/ethnicity: · Had something stolen: white, 41.6%; black, 46% · Had property deliberately damaged: white, 25.8%; black, 26.3% · Threatened with a weapon: white, 13.8%; black, 23.5% · Threatened without a weapon: white, 23.8%; black, 22.3% · Injured with a weapon: white, 4.3%; black, 6.4% · Injured without a weapon: white, 11%; black, 11.5%

These statistics are five years old. They show that close to half of the students had something stolen and close to a quarter of the black kids had been threatened with a weapon. This is approximately ten times the rate of crimes committed against adults, and indicates a massive amount of juvenile anger.

As I listened to the live reports yesterday telling of two young boys in camouflage garb ambushing their classmates and teachers and filling them full of 27 rounds of ammunition I thought, "Why would such young children be so angry?" And then I remembered a conversation I had a few weeks ago with my daughter Gail Lyon who told me about the anger she is seeing daily in three and four year old children. It is an abnormal anger that neither she, nor other professional teachers in pre-school education have seen before.

Gail's degree is in Family and Child Development from Cornell University. She has four children, the oldest in college, and has taught very young children for nearly twenty years. She, and fellow teachers, are seeing behavior that is different from the behavior of young children just a few years ago.

Others have seen it. Dr. Benjamin Spock, who died just days ago, said in one of his last articles that "We are a deeply troubled society."

The role of parents traditionally in all societies is to "socialize their children," Gail observes. From their parents they learn the acceptable behavior for the culture into which they have been born and to which they must learn to adapt. Once in America that meant children learned the acceptable limits of behavior. Children, once upon a time, were expected to show respect for their parents and teachers, for example. At home, school and church, telling the truth, obeying the law and being married to the person you had sex with were the guiding principles of normal, civilized behavior. Civilized behavior meant you reined in your emotions - especially anger - and resolved problems without physical violence.

These social values are no longer taught or, apparently, valued by most Americans, if the polls are to be believed. Gail calls this failure to teach those values "institutionalized selfishness." All that seems to drive most people today are their own personal desires. Some of the most prestigious members of society in recent weeks have defended the notion that the personal behavior of the President of the United States should be of no concern to the public. If he lies, fails to control his sex drive, uses a battery of lawyers and high-priced spin-doctors to destroy anyone who disapproves of his conduct, that is acceptable.

If the President of the United States is not be expected to rein in his sex drive or tell the truth, what kind of reining in of emotions should we require of 11 and 13 year old boys? In recent weeks, the media have criticized those who object to the President of the United States exposing himself to Paula Jones, asking for oral sex, and sexually assaulting Kathleen Willey when she asked him to help her get a job. If that's OK behavior for the nation's 50 year old leader, what are the social boundaries expected for a 13 year old who has just been ditched by his girlfriend? How much anger, violence or physical response is too much?

The President now wants to know: What is causing this kind of behavior? Well, Mr. President, what has caused your kind of behavior? If character no longer matters in presidents, should it matter for 11 and 13 year old boys? If the nation's top executive can use anger, power and position to get sexual services from women he casually meets, and receive a 67% approval rate from the people, as the polls claim, is this not, then, the new social standard for all males, including resentful 13 year olds? If the president can destroy the lives of women who object to his unwanted sexual demands, is it OK for 13 year olds to take the matter one step further and just shoot the pesky females who won't cooperate?

Perhaps to find the source of the problem in Jonesboro in his home state of Arkansas, the President might try looking in the mirror.


To comment: mmostert@originalsources.com