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To: O'Hara who wrote (35905)	4/26/1999 12:40:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

There is more of a correlation to cramming people together and having them kill each other. Let's face it, people are annoying (not just the little people either) of course you (whoever you are, reading this and thinking about yourself) aren't annoying - just everyone else. And the further away people are the less annoying they seem. So when you have people spread out, lots of land, no feeling of being squashed in by other annoying people, of course you don't have as many people going berzerk. Highschool can be pretty claustrophobic. A small suburb can seem like a prison when you are young and intelligent and life seems to be boring and small and getting smaller. One's own death, and especially taking some other people with you in death, can seem like a brilliant and heroic thing to do I suspect.

To: O'Hara who wrote (35905)	4/26/1999 2:06:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Ironically there appears to be a direct correlation between the rise in the amount of gun control laws, and the incidence of deaths and injuries, associated with what the govt. is attempting to control. The two phenomena occurred at approximately the same time. This does not mean that one caused the other. One could as easily, and more cogently, argue that the rise in violent crime caused the expansion of gun control legislation. You choose the opposite view because it conforms to your prejudice. Please do not pretend that logic is involved. I am no great believer in gun control, but sloppy thinking makes me want to shoot someone. Fortunately I have a fair degree of self-control, as I would quickly run out of ammunition. Living proof that religion rots the brain.

To: O'Hara who wrote (35905)	4/29/1999 9:41:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

You are obviously a very illogical thinker, Shalom, but X and Steven Rogers have already called you on that, so I won't bother to repeat what they said, except to reiterate that guns are much more lethal now than they were, and that we are more crowded together as well. I am, however, curious as to how a man who represents himself as devout could defend seriously that the ready access to handguns and semi-automatic weapons we have in America represents any kind of positive spiritual value at all. The rest of the world thinks we are insane here, that our society is absolutely pathological, and I would have to agree with them. I believe that if Jesus were alive in America today, in fact, he would be at the forefront of the movement to restrict them. U.S. leads richest nations in gun deaths ATLANTA - The United States has by far the highest rate of gun deaths - murders, suicides and accidents - among the world's 36 richest nations, a government study found. The U.S. rate for gun deaths in 1994 was 14.24 per 100,000 people. Japan had the lowest rate, at .05 per 100,000. The study, done by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, is the first comprehensive international look at gun-related deaths. It was published Thursday in the International Journal of Epidemiology. The CDC would not speculate why the death rates varied, but other researchers said easy access to guns and society's acceptance of violence are part of the problem in the United States. ''If you have a country saturated with guns - available to people when they are intoxicated, angry or depressed - it's not unusual guns will be used more often,'' said Dr. Rebecca Peters, a Johns Hopkins University fellow specializing in gun violence. ''This has to be treated as a public health emergency.'' The National Rifle Association called the study shoddy because it failed to examine all causes of violent deaths. ''What this shows is the CDC is after guns. They aren't concerned with violence. It's pretending that no homicide exists unless it's related to guns,'' said Dr. Paul Blackman, a research coordinator for the NRA in Fairfax, Va. The study used 1994 statistics supplied by the 36 countries. Of the 88,649 gun deaths reported by all the countries, the United States accounted for 45 percent, said Dr. Etienne Krug, a CDC researcher and co-author of the article. ''I was surprised by the magnitude of the difference between the U.S. and other countries,'' Krug said. Brazil ranked second with 12.95 deaths per 100,000, followed by Mexico with 12.69, Estonia with 12.26 and Argentina with 8.93. Japan, where very few people own guns, averages 124 gun-related attacks a year, and less than 1% end in death. Police often raid the homes of those suspected of having weapons. Also at the bottom of the list were South Korea with .12 per 100,000 people, followed by Hong Kong with .14, Mauritius with .19, Singapore with .21, Taiwan with .37 and England and Wales with .41. The study found that gun-related deaths were five to six times higher in the Americas than in Europe or Australia and New Zealand and 95 times higher than in Asia. By The Associated Press usatoday.com