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To: Earlie who wrote (57473)4/26/1999 5:11:00 PM
From: per strandberg  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
Earlie,

just a tiny note from Sweden.

Compaq's distributor just warned, estimating
to sell 1.0 mil PCs this year, down from last year's 1.6 mil.

Definitely slowing over here, even without eMachines!

Regards
Per S



To: Earlie who wrote (57473)4/26/1999 5:35:00 PM
From: jebj  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 132070
 
>I sense from your posts that you do not believe that the PC situation is deteriorating. - Earlie

As a newcomer to this board, your's was the first post I read.

My impression is that it is very well written and thought out - BUT somewhat what we see from the "hypers" that are pushing a favorite stock - - except in the opposite direction! :)

I can not disagree with anything you have said - and only note that it has been being said about the net stocks for - - how many years now?

One thing I firmly believe in - a history of the market will prove BOTH positions correct - - at SOME point in time!

And when it happens, at that point in time, one side can say, "I told you so!" :)

One thing is for sure, wheather one is in or out of a stock or sector, some will make money and some will lose money! "But one thing is clear - if someone has been involved in the nets for any period of time, they can certainly take a substantial hit - and STILL be well ahead of the pack!

jb



To: Earlie who wrote (57473)4/26/1999 6:48:00 PM
From: Alohal  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 132070
 
Earlie, thanks for the reasonable and detailed response, I knew that if I persisted someone would actually answer my questions, even if it wasn't MB <gggg>. The evidence you cite for a PC slowdown, however, is subject to other interpretations, and this is where I think we differ. I would cite the same evidence to argue that what we see is not a slowdown, but a rapid consolidation within a maturing industry. We are seeing 25-35% revenue growth in a few companies as they move to dominate the entire sector. Even CPQ is now admitting that they have a company specific problem (boy, do they ever). As you and others have repeatedly pointed out, in a maturing industry rates of revenue growth must slow (law of large numbers being one main reason), so this is not a surprise. The most efficient companies in the sectors are emerging as the winners in this consolidation. Dell, GTW and IBM are set to continue to take market share from CPQ HWP and the white box makers. (Indeed CPQ might never recover, depending how quickly and how well they respond to the considerable challenges that lie before them, IMO there is a better than even chance that they will choke on their most recent acquisitions, but we'll see). Both Dell and IBM realize where the future seems to lie and are moving to occupy the services and cyberspace corners of the industry. (IMO IBM, CPQ and HWP should simply cede the manufacturing of their PC's to Dell and GTW who seem to be the only companies capable of making and selling PC's at a profit. (At this point, whether emachines can produce PC's at a profit remains to be seen, however, if they do you can bet that both Dell and GTW will be competitive and with a huge brand name and internet presence edge.)

I used IDC/Dataquest figures because MB referred to them repeatedly to support the "slowdown" theory. Their numbers are glorified guesstimates, but I don't know of any other source which comprehensively covers the sector, therefore they seem to be the yardstick, albeit less than ideal. And since MB used them I didn't think he would object to my use of these same figures.

I do believe that some very interesting times are ahead in the PC industry, and that Dell is the company best positioned to take advantage of every opportunity which presents itself during this consolidation. I am very long Dell stock and have seen little or no change in their fundamentals, so I will continue to be long. I believe they are positioned to continue to take large chunks of market share even as the rate of growth slows for the industry as a whole. Time will tell which of us is right ( perhaps that we are both right, that there is a slowdown but Dell will continue to outperform everyone else in the sector).

BTW, I am still waiting for the source of MB's claim that there was a sequential decline in PC units from Q4 98 to Q1 99, and the comparison with prior year's sequential declines (primarily due to seasonality, which by the by is mostly CPQ's doing with its massive channel stuffing, geeze I hope the new CEO can at least approximate telling the truth in the future). Can you shed any light on this?

Again, thanks for your thoughtful response, I consistently read your postings with interest and though I almost always disagree with your positions <gg> I appreciate hearing the other view as it forces me to examine and re-examine my own ideas and positions. Regards and aloha.