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To: CharleyMike who wrote (5630)4/26/1999 9:54:00 PM
From: Binder  Respond to of 7039
 
Charley Mike,
Maybe I was wrong, and you truly are in the middle.

I still disagree that he did anything wrong, and I strongly disagree that he knew just enough to not get his a$$ in a crack, as you say. If that were the case, he never would have (or at least never should have) accepted the position of IR. Nor would he, imo, be defending himself so vehemently on this thread. He would have just walked away.

It is my opinion that there are two primary reasons the SEC contacted Gary. First of all, he was the one to nail Dan Fisher. That, in and of itself, of course wouldn't qualify, imo. However, AFTER Fisher was nailed and left the country, there was a phone conversation that took place between Fisher and Dusty. The result of this conversation, while never shared with anyone here, was the beginning of Dusty's onslaught of innuendo, and a series of emails to others attacking Gary. Heck I can't blame the guy one bit for defending himself, and I can certainly understand his anger, because, as we saw yesterday, Dusty is not always truthful. I am sure that as a result of Dusty's actions, there were likely some complaints made, and some of them may have addressed Gary by name. Remember, she has never revealed the content of her conversation with Fisher.

The other reason I believe he was called is because for a short time, he held an official position in the company as IR. It is my guess that anyone who has EVER been in an official capacity with this company was called for their records. (S. King was former CEO) This is the only reasonable explanation I can arrive at as to why they would have called him and not the many others who made posts here. Maybe someone else knows something I don't. If so, I hope they will share it.

I don't think he is using the fact that he was able to prove his innocence for anything at all. In fact, you will rarely see him post here (or anywhere) unless first posted to by someone else.

His only wrongdoing, if you want to call it a wrongdoing, was believing the DD he was given. If he is wrong for doing that, then we were ALL wrong, Dusty included.

You can only let a pesky blood sucking mosquito buzz around you for so long before you take a swat at it, and I believe he probably holds that blood sucking mosquito with about as much regard as he holds Dusty.

Just my opinion,

Binder



To: CharleyMike who wrote (5630)4/27/1999
From: Ripley  Respond to of 7039
 
This lurker pretty much agrees with you.



To: CharleyMike who wrote (5630)4/27/1999 12:58:00 AM
From: Ga Bard  Respond to of 7039
 
I do think he knew just how to avoid anything that would get his a$$ in a crack. He came really, really close, I believe, or the SEC wouldn't have asked him to prove his innocence.

well lets see here...

1. I was doing a non compensated proofing of news release (with others)which according to the SEC is not illegal since I did not author the releases and I supplied a tape for the one release that I did not get a fax on. (Not illegal what-so-ever!)

2. I never traded based on the information I received. (Again nothing illegal)However, not sure about the others.

3. By verify information itn the releases to cover my butt since I was new and not sure if I could be nailed for false information whether I authored it or not. I discover when talking to DF about a conversion which sent off red flags ... (Again nothing remotely illegal)

4. Instead of whing and crying on SI ... I called the company secretary and legal SEC counsel. (Again nothing remotely illegal)

5. I offered to help in anyway I could and I became the IR for NO compensate. (Again nothing remotely illegal at all unless I failed to disclose compensation according to rule 17B) Since I was not compensated there was nothing to disclose.

6. I co-operated with the SEC from the time I got the call as the IR.

7. I immediately sent a written testimony on all the players and events and all copies of all documentation.

8. I recieved a supeona to come before the SEC as a witness and to supply all my posts and emails and any correspondence on all the people I sent in my voluntary testimony Plus any company or stock associated with Midland no matter how remote.

9. I complied in the 4 days they gave me with all my documentation, trading logs, bank accounts, etc. etc. for all my family members.

10. I allowed the Dusty ring to cause me to doubt myself so I hired an attorney.

11. I went before the SEC and never took the 5th and answered every question with B/W proof.

12. The first document they showed me was my $92,000.00 loss account sheet based on the actual purchases in the open market that I had made from Oct 1997 - June 1998.

13. There was no selling into Steven King's e-mail except for 2000 shares of Midland and anything I ever sold of Midland went into the Ps.

Now for the love of whatever I really would like to know what the devil I could have done that you people are so adamnat about that I did something wrong ... Other than DUsty talking to DF and doing the biggest character assassination in the history of SI.

I was the IR and I had all the documentation. Of course I was going to a hearing I knew that when I first talked to them and they wanted my story which was how it all began. ON Discovery there is a man that does EXACTLY what I have just done but he helps them catch the bad guys.

SO WOULD SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT THE HELL I DID TO DESERVE ALL THIS BULL and ACCUSSATIONS OF WRONG DOING!

This is getting to the point that it is totally STUPID. I catch a bad guy and some total mad bowling alley queen talks to him and BELIEVES whatever he told her and mounts a massive attack on my character on nothing but pure 100% lies. Heck, Dusty and them even tried to say I was paid because I bought some stock in CNHH.

You folks think I am kidding around and all ... but this is getting to the point where I am just about ready to make some people justify their 9 months of personal attacks, innuendoes and insinuations.

You think you can just say whatever you want ... watch out for a train. Sometimes it takes a lot but I am innocent of any wrong doing and I am quite prepared to PROVE it IN COURT!!! Are you willing to state your underlying basis for what you just said?

:-)

GB



To: CharleyMike who wrote (5630)4/27/1999 1:14:00 AM
From: Ga Bard  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 7039
 
Hey MR. CharlieMike .. how about this...

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/990426/ca_busines_6.html
Monday April 26, 8:01 pm Eastern Time

Company Press Release

Business Wire Files Suit for Fraud and Trademark Violations

SAN FRANCISCO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 26, 1999--Business Wire, the leading provider of up-to-the-minute
commercial news to editors and the worldwide financial community, today filed a lawsuit in federal court against three perpetrators
of a recent online hoax who used Business Wire's press release distribution services to publicize a phony investment opportunity.

The defendants, Jeffrey Mitchell, William Ulrich and Janice Shell, submitted a press release to Business Wire on behalf of a
company called ''Webnode'' announcing that the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) had granted Webnode an exclusive contract
to raise funding for the Next Generation Internet (NGI). Although the NGI is a bona fide project, Webnode -- and its supposed contract with the government -- is a
sham.

The bogus press release also included a fake solicitation for investments in ''nodes'' on the NGI and directed readers to the Webnode.com website where they
could learn more about Webnode and register to invest.

The defendants responded to inquiries about Webnode and collected personal information from nearly 2,000 people who believed, based on information in the
phony press release, they had a genuine opportunity to get in on the ground floor of the NGI, the lawsuit alleges.

Based on the Webnode crew's assurances that the press release was genuine, Business Wire distributed the news of Webnode's purported DOE contract over its
wire service and posted it on the businesswire.com website.

The defendants also posted the phony press release on the Webnode.com website. The defendants' false announcement, with the BUSINESS WIRE trademark
prominently displayed on the byline, was made available to millions of readers.

When Business Wire discovered the hoax, it immediately pulled the Webnode announcement from its website and notified recipients of its wire service to disregard
the announcement. Business Wire also demanded that the defendants remove the BUSINESS WIRE mark from all copies of the press release.

In response, defendants changed the byline to ''BIDNESS WIRE,'' a name easily confused with Business Wire. The defendants only deleted the byline after
repeated demands from the company, and then began making false assertions that the company was itself involved in fraudulent investment schemes, according to the
lawsuit.

Business Wire's lawsuit alleges violations of federal and state trademark laws, fraud, breach of contract, defamation and conspiracy and seeks unspecified damages
and injunctive relief.


HIP HIP HOORAY!

Never know, one day I may make a news release where some folks get to account for their posts over the last 9 months with their malious attacks (oh excuse me their opinons, views or whatever), insinuations, innuendoes and LIES. KG4 is doing one and I know some others too. It is called "defamation" I believe. Might just get interesting when people have to take an oath and then have a duty to tell the truth.

:-) It may take some time but folks will eventually get tagged for their actions.

GB