To: spy hard who wrote (3071 ) 4/27/1999 6:35:00 PM From: Tinroad Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 18366
EDIG 101 (DD links for new EDIG investors) updated 1830 EDT, 4/27/99 Interesting post at SI: To: Richard Monahan (2942 ) From: bob Saturday, Apr 24 1999 10:36AM ET Reply #2943 of 2999 Folks I have come to the conclusion that eDIG has already licensed their MicroOS to IBM. I can't find the link but if you look at the eDIG patent for it and then look under patents for IBM the wording is identical. How this could have gotten by me I don't know, but this is big, big news IMO. Could mean that IBM will use the MicroOS in all of their flash memory devices in the future. Techie Insights from SI Board: "As you are aware, all these compression schemes EPAC, MP3, AAC employ psycho-acoustic models to eliminate masked audio from the data stream. That's why I was surprised to see claims of a such a large difference in compression. I can see subtle differences in sub-band selection, redundancy coding etc giving rise to small differences in overall compression, but not 10 times - even 3 or 4 seems a lot. But I'm not an audio expert and was wondering if I missed something here." The response to the above was: "Well I am an audio expert *blush* and you are right on the mark. It would be amazing to do that kind of improvement over mp3. And if anyone could do it it would be this team of companies. The folks at Lucent are no slackers... ;) But alot of wierd numbers have been bandied about on this thread recently, and if I am not mistaken the size of an EPAC compressed file is going to be very close to the size of an mp3. Therefore download times will be about the same. This will all be totally MOOT in a short matter of time anyway. Bandwidth is going up faster than compression brings file sizes down. And I just bought a freakin 17 gig hard drive for $250. File size will, in the end, be of less significance. On the subject of audio quality and AAC which was brought up here before -> Both tests I have run with my equipment, and my ears (the real equipment) tell me that all the buzz over AAC sounding better is bogus. It is swimmier an the highs... Much more distorted than an mp3 (which is pretty easy to complain about all on it's own). The sound quality of EPAC will be important. This relies on decoders as much as encoders and p-a modeling. But this is still going to be a very minor issue... Most people will be happy with nearly any of the formats... The REAL catch.. The place I believe the rubber is gonna really make contact with the asphalt so to speak is with the almightly Music Industry. There is ALOT of huge money gathered together to work deals with a bunch more huge money.... The Music industry, and format providers are going to want very badly to come together to insure that money can still be made selling music in the digital age. The music industry is going to want the bvest partners possible in this endevour so they can SURVIVE. Lucent, and Intel and Sony and Disney... They have a hard row to plough. They MUST convince the consumer that there is a reason to purchace music on a proprietary protected format instead of the free one. If only EPAC was to mp3, what CDs are to cassettes. Why do people buy CDs instead of just making cassette copies? Because of the advantages. It is certainly not the shiney cover. CDs sound better, and last longer. There may not be this stark a difference between EPAC and mp3. Nomatter what.. EDIG is a GREAT play!!! An emerging technology (compressed digital music) that is shaking the SNOT out of an esablished industry (our friends the record companies), with the backing of the CREAM OF THE CROP TECHNOLOGY GODS (LU INTC TXN). And on top of all this it is an INTERNET play!!! Oh Yeah... It's also blasted through MAJOR resistance today without so much as a flinch... If it can hold on to $1 - 1.25 for a couple days I still say watch out moon!!" Recent News wired.com wired.com (Wired articles on secure music, MP3, Diamond player, etc.) ragingbull.com news.com (MP3& other contenders) ragingbull.com (rehash of old news) biz.yahoo.com (MP3 competition) biz.yahoo.com (hmmm...) Corporate Summary: ragingbull.com Recent posts of interest to all: ragingbull.com (EDIG financial info) ragingbull.com (Business Week article re IBM/RNWK deal) ragingbull.com (Historical data from long-term investor) Background articles: techweb.com techweb.com wired.com *NEW 4/19/99* (Wired article on 'net & digital music) eet.com NEW 4/19 PM (EE Times article on the competition (MSFT)) Hunter!'s original newbie info (General background): ragingbull.com ragingbull.com ragingbull.com ragingbull.com ragingbull.com ragingbull.com ragingbull.com Music Industry website for secure music distribution; similiar info and links: ragingbull.com IBM/VoiceTIMES Website: software.ibm.com Sony/IBM/EDIG connection: biz.yahoo.com ragingbull.com ragingbull.com ragingbull.com Good EE Times technical article re e.digital and VoiceTIMES: eet.com PATENTS: patents.ibm.com (Lucent) patents.ibm.com (Norris/EDIG) patents.ibm.com (Norris/EDIG) patents.ibm.com (Norris/EDIG) patents.ibm.com (Norris/EDIG) patents.ibm.com (Norris/EDIG) 164.195.100.11 , '99 Sony patent referencing an EDIG AKA Norris patent) Maybe some skies DO contain pies: (Opinion only) ragingbull.com