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To: greenspirit who wrote (5672)4/27/1999 10:43:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos  Respond to of 17770
 
Thursday, April 22, 1999

DISPATCH FROM KOSOVO

Refugee Serbs Blame NATO in Camp Bombing

By PAUL WATSON, Times Staff Writer

MAJINO NASELJE, Yugoslavia--Half a mile up the road from
where NATO pilots mistakenly bombed Kosovo Albanian
refugees last week, warplanes on Wednesday pounded a
Serbian refugee camp. Four Serbs, including a young boy,
died during a heavy airstrike, as most of the refugees were
asleep around 3 a.m., survivors said in interviews at the
scene. The attack damaged at least two apartment
buildings housing refugees and left more than a dozen
bomb craters. The aircraft involved were not immediately
identified, although Serbian refugees and Yugoslav
government authorities blamed the attack on the North
Atlantic Treaty Organization. But Army Col. Mike Phillips, a
spokesman at NATO's military headquarters in Mons,
Belgium, said the alliance could not have been responsible
because its aircraft were not operating in the area. Serbian
refugees at the camp were among the more than 200,000
ethnic Serbs driven from Croatia's Krajina region in 1995
by Croatian troops. Many of those Serbian victims of "ethnic
cleansing" still live in Yugoslavia. Residents said the site
should have been familiar to the West: U.S. diplomat
William Walker, former head of a civilian team that
monitored Kosovo's cease-fire before NATO launched
airstrikes March 24, had toured the camp three times,
noted Novica Gulic, a survivor of Wednesday's attack. A
week earlier, warplanes bombed ethnic Albanian refugees
nearby in convoys headed toward the Albanian border. Five
days later, NATO acknowledged its pilots had mistakenly
attacked while trying to hit military vehicles. As many as 80
Kosovo Albanians died at the site of last week's airstrikes.
NATO acknowledged that it might have killed some of
them, but suggested that Yugoslav ground or air forces
also might have attacked and killed the refugees. A foreign
reporter who visited the scene of Wednesday's attack
without a Yugoslav military or police escort counted more
than a dozen craters in and around the refugees' buildings.
The biggest explosion gouged a tear-drop shaped trench
about 12 yards long, 10 yards across and 5 yards deep.
suffered the heaviest hit in
Wednesday's attack. The bomb blasts destroyed at least
four apartments and half a dozen cars. Most of the victims
had been in buildings that housed refugees. From the air,
they might look like barracks, but on the ground, the
remains had all the signs of civilian life. There were potted
plants, children's shoes, rubber boots and women's
clothing. Among the belongings loaded into a wheelbarrow
was a sack of donated flour with "U.S.A." printed across the
front. It came from USAID, the U.S. government aid agency,
and was cein December 1995. Now Serbia and its smaller sister
republic, Montenegro, are all that's left of Yugoslavia, and
Serbian refugees such as Gulic say they have nowhere left
to flee. In 1995, Croatian forces rounded up all the Serbs in
Shibanik, her hometown on Croatia's Adriatic coast. They
were forced into Topusko, just south of the Croatian
capital, Zagreb. Then the Croats deported the Serbs in a
massive column of tractors and cars, she said.
"Throughout Croatia, when we were driving, they were
beating us and throwing stones at us--and everything else
they possibly could," she said. * * *

Times staff writer Joel Havemann in Brussels contributed
to this report. All of Paul Watson's dispatches from Kosovo
are available on The Times' Web site at
latimes.com.



To: greenspirit who wrote (5672)4/27/1999 10:43:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos  Respond to of 17770
 
Sunday, April 25, 1999

DISPATCH FROM KOSOVO
Serb-Run Hospitals Hold Fate of Infants Left Behind

By PAUL WATSON, ELIZABETH SHOGREN, Times
Staff Writers

PRISTINA, Yugoslavia--When the order came to get
out of Kosovo, many ethnic Albanians had to leave
behind what they loved most, even if that was a
newborn child. The soldiers, police and paramilitaries
who drove them from this Serbian province, some
disguised in black masks, weren't very sympathetic to
a mother's pleas for a little more time to get her baby
from the hospital. Some of the infants were too small
to be moved safely anyway, so theil be reunited with the
parents who were forced to abandon them. For now,
they are in the hands of fate, and of Serbian medical
staffers like Mirjana Rascanin. She swore long ago to
care for all of her patients, no matter how they came
into the world, or her ward, and that is what she is
acedonia. She cries every
day. She knows the name of baby #1127 in
Rascanin's registry. He is Kushtrim, her son, who was
born two months premature, at 4 pounds, 6 ounces,
on March 19. Two weeks after Gajtani gave birth to
Kushtrim, Serbian paramilitary forces came to the
family's home in Pristina, Kosovo's provincial capital,
and ordered them to leave immediately. Gajtani
begged them to let her collect her baby first, but they
old her they didn't care about the infant. Like
thousands of other ethnic Albanians in the city, Gajtani
and her husband, Hyzri, had to join a column of people
walking solemnly to the rail station, where they were
loaded onto trains and deported. When they reached
the border, Hyzri wanted to turn around and go back to
Pristina for Kushtrim, their firstborn. But his wife talked
him out of it. "I didn't let him because the road was full
of police," she said in an interview at the Brazda camp.
Gajtani reported the missing baby to the International
Committee of the Red Cross two weeks ago, but each
time she has checked with the group at her camp,
she's been told they have no information. Along with
all but a few Greek relief agencies, the Red Cross
evacuated its staff from Kosovo, so the first news
Gajtani heard of her baby came from a foreign
journalist. The couple have registered to go to
Germany, Austria or Sweden, but they worry that if they
leave the Brazda camp, it will be even more difficult for
them to be reunited with their son. As Kushtrim grows
older, he also gets closer to being declared officially
abandoned and then, when he is too old for the
maternity ward, sent off to an orphanage. Kushtrim
has put on the weight he needed to get out of an
incubator--and then some--and now he sleeps and
eats with the rest of the babies under the care of
Rascanin and her nurses. She has heard reports
coming from outside Kosovo that claim the Pristina
hospital staff has mistreated ethnic Albanian patients
or kicked them out altogether, and she can't just shrug
them off as war propaganda. "It hurts me very much
when I hear this," she said. "I'm trying to be a
professional every single moment. "God is watching
all this, including those who report on this
unprofessionally and those of us who are doing our
jobs professionally." Each night, when the North
Atlantic Treaty Organization's bombers usually attack
targets in and around Pristina, the nurses carry the
babies down to an underground bomb shelter. They
make enough warm milk for the night and keep the
babies as close together as they can, because the
shelter is cold, and then carry them all back up to the
ward after sunrise. NATO's daytime bombing in the
vicinity of the capital has increased over the last couple
of days, so the risk and the tension are constant. After
a bomb blast just outside Pristina, people on the
second floor of one hospital building could feel the
entire structure shaking Saturday, and the windows
rattled. That's a regular event, and it's not very healthy
for babies, especially in a maternity ward with large
windows that shatter easily, Rascanin said. "It's
awful," she said. "Children are screaming, and there
are detonations here, and then over there, so we don't
know where to take them." In the ward where 22
civilian bombing victims are recovering from shrapnel
wounds to arms and legs, all but one of the patients
are ethnic Albanians. Six of them are from one family.
Sehrija Vojvoda lies in one bed, breast-feeding her
6-month-old baby, Rilidona, while her children Albert,
3, Bedzet, 5, Mentor, 13, and Valdeta, 15, lie nearby
recovering from arm and leg wounds. Her son Sefcet,
7, is all alone with severe internal injuries in a room on
another floor. His mother says the family members
were all injured soon after they heard planes above
their Srbica home about 10 a.m. on April 15. "We went
out to see what was happening, and suddenly a bomb
fell on our house," she said through an ethnic
Albanian nurse who acted as a translator. "There were
11 dead and 25 wounded." Saturday afternoon, the
hospital took in two more Kosovo Albanian children
who were injured after finding a yellow canister with
numbers on it in the field by their family's farm in
Doganovic, about 30 miles south of Pristina. To boys
tending cows, it looked like something fun to play with.
But it was an unexploded bomblet, one of several that
fell from a cluster bomb. It went off in the children's
faces. Five of them died, all from one family, and by 4
o'clock--just 4 1/2 hours later--the Koxha children were
buried in a grassy cemetery by a small brook near the
village. Their names were written in blue ink on
wooden stakes: Edon, 3, Fisnik, 9, Osman, 13, Burim,
14, and Valdet, 15. A small pool of coagulating blood
marked the spot where the bomblet blew up, tearing a
hole in the ground about 3 feet long and a couple of
inches deep and throwing the yellow canister about 30
yards. Just an hour after the cluster bomblet exploded,
something fell from the sky over the ethnic Albanian
village of Velika Dobranja, about 12 miles south of
Pristina. It smashed two small holes through the red
tile roof of one house, shot shrapnel into another and
destroyed a farmer's tractor in the neighbor's yard. The
shrapnel also killed Orta Lugici, age 6. His distraught
uncle Mehmet Lugici, 36, brought two other children to
Pristina's hospital, where one was listed in critical
condition Saturday night. "Please, God, let this war
end," the boy's uncle said. It was also a busy Saturday
in the maternity ward's delivery room, where three
children were born. One of the babies was a Serb, the
other two ethnic Albanians. Watson reported from
Pristina and Shogren from Skopje, Macedonia.

All of Paul Watson's dispatches from Kosovo are
available on The Times' Web site at
latimes.com.




To: greenspirit who wrote (5672)4/27/1999 10:46:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
Just passing this along for the heck of it.
-------------------
Dear Colleagues Thank you for your interest and offers of help with regard
to the indictment process. To recap, I am submitting -- hopefully on
Friday morning -- a detailed legal brief to the International Criminal
Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia, alleging that British Prime Minister
Tony Blair, Foreign Secretary Robin Cook and Defence Secretary George
Robertson have committed serious violations of the laws and customs of war
and should be investigated and indicted for these actions, which is within
the power of the Tribunal.

The first section of the submission is now on the web, at:
ban.joh.cam.ac.uk

At present, only the legal section is on the web. Over the next few days,
I will be adding detailed descriptions of some of the NATO attacks on
civilian targets, as well as those which have killed a large number of
civilians, in violation of international humanitarian law.

Although I would welcome comments on any part of the submission, I have a
number of specific requests: i) Could anybody fill me in on the details of
NATO's bombing of the refugee camp in Nis, managed by CARE Australia for
the UNHCR in late March, in which 9 people died, and for which NATO
subsequently "apologised"?

ii) What were the other offices in the 23-story tower block bombed by NATO
last week & again this morning, which hosted Pink TV, the Socialist party
of Serbia, the Left party & Kosava TV? Have all facilities been rendered
unusable?

iii) Has anybody found any especially good quotes from Blair, Cook or
Robertson on targetting economic sites within Yugoslavia? If someone could
look through the debates from the past month in the House of Commons (on
the web, through Hansard) for such statements, I would be very grateful --
this is especially important in showing these individuals' intent.

iv) Does anyone have extensive details about the damage done to the
transport network in Novi Sad? In particular, I need the dates on which the
different bridges were attacked, the names of the bridges, the prior use of
each (pedestrian / rail / car?).

v) Generally, I'm looking for cases where NATO specifically targetted
installations with little or no military use. I've got lots of details
about the bombing of the RTS Studios, but I would like more details about a
number of other sites, in particular factories. A lot of people have
mentioned the cigarette factory to me, but I haven't received any further
details - if you have more details about this, or any other factory bombed
by NATO which was not involved in the production of any weapons, I would
like to hear them.

Many thanks for any help you are able to provide to me. All these
questions will be listed at the web index (address above), and new ones
will be added over the next few days. If anybody would like me to send them
a copy of the legal argument by email instead, please drop me a line. Press
work will begin when the brief has been submitted. Please circulate the web
address, and put links to it if you have a web page!

With best wishes
Glen.

----------------------------------------
Glen Rangwala
International Lawyer

Faculty of Social and Political Sciences
Cambridge University

Free School Lane
Cambridge
CB2 3RQ
Tel: 44 (0)1223 334535
Fax (shared): 44 (0)1223 334550
Home tel: 44 (0)1223 462187
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Forward at least:
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nl.politiek,soc.culture.spain,pl.soc.polytika,talk.politics.european-union,
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To: greenspirit who wrote (5672)4/27/1999 10:58:00 PM
From: Les H  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
This is supposed to be one of their key evidence of genocide, a gunfight between government police and a rebel force. Give me a break.

Photos of Kosovo Killings Unveiled

BONN, Germany (AP) - Germany's defense minister Tuesday presented photos of a mass killing in Kosovo he said were evidence Serb atrocities began long before NATO started its air war.

Defense Minister Rudolf Scharping said the pictures were taken Jan. 29 by a German member of an international observer mission in Kosovo that has since been withdrawn.

The photos apparently came from an early morning raid by Serb police on the village of Rogovo, near the Albanian border, that was widely reported at the time. Two dozen ethnic Albanians, mostly men, were killed, along with one Serb policeman.

Serb police said at the time that there was a fierce gunbattle when officers raided a family compound where rebel Kosovo Liberation Army fighters had taken shelter overnight. The KLA conceded later that at least two of its guerrillas were among the victims, including a regional commander.

The photos released by Scharping showed about 15 corpses, including one beheaded torso, in what appeared to be a farmyard. The victims appeared to be civilians. Several blue-uniformed men, who Scharping said were Serb special police, were standing in one corner of the yard holding automatic weapons.

The German observer arrived at the site shortly after the killing, Scharping said.

''This makes clear the degree of brutality that was used when all this began and which is continuing,'' he told a news conference. ''These are shocking pictures.''

Scharping said the observer, a German army lieutenant on leave whom he refused to identify, told him about the photos in early April and needed some persuading to turn them over.



To: greenspirit who wrote (5672)4/28/1999 12:54:00 PM
From: Machaon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 17770
 
<< Robert, comparing Milosevic to Hitler degrades the horror that 30 million people went through. "to coin a phrase, Milosevic ain't no Hitler". >>

I said that Milosevic is a Hitler wannabe. This plus my calling Milosevic a Fascist Dictator doesn't degrade any horror from World War II.

Hitler was a brutal Fascist dictator and Slob Milosevic is a brutal Fascist Dictator. Hitler wanted to create a "Greater Germany", Slob Milosevic and Dog Face, his wife, want to create a "Greater Serbia". Each one used ethnic cleansing to achieve their ambitions.

Both Milosevic and Hitler's thugs murdered, raped and looted everything in sight.

Both Milosevic and Hitler represented evil racist monsters.

There are comparisons to be made.

You turn a blind eye to the similarities between Hitler and Milosevic and any other brutal fascist or communist dictators, in order to push your version of the truth.

<< ... why not go directly after him with every bomb in America's arsenal?? .>

Yes, why not? If you cut off the head of a snake, the snake dies. I'm hoping that the Serbs, who must realize that Slob is a demented dictator, will get rid of him and Dog Face, in order to save their nation.

<< Why don't you tell us something about the KLA? I'll bet their atrocities were pretty horrific toward the Serbs a few years ago. >>

Slob Milosevic is responsible for the birth of the KLA. He pursued a policy of ethnic cleansing in Kosovo, starting 10 years ago. It was only in the last few years, where the Serbs stepped up their terror campaign, that the KLA was formed in self defense. What would you like the Kosovos to do, just let the Serb Military Police run over them without trying to protect themselves?

<< How many people will be killed, made homeless or raped because of the NATO attacks. >>

Only a small number compared to what the Serbs are doing in Kosovo. Besides that, what would you have done, just let Slob and Dog Face murder hundreds of thousands of innocent people? You want to take the easy way out, because the genocide in Kosovo isn't threatening your peaceful existence. I guess it would be the type of world you want to live in.

<< I feel a lot worse for the hundreds of thousands of people being slaughtered in Uganda. Don't you? >>

I feel bad for Kosovo and Uganda. Africa needs to form it's own version of NATO. If the African nations would band together, with America's help, they could also have some safeguards against genocide.