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To: Ian@SI who wrote (29832)4/29/1999 10:26:00 PM
From: Katherine Derbyshire  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 70976
 
>>It just might be the crossover from producing 16 Mb chips to producing 64Mb and
denser chips.<<

Not sure I follow this. The ASP for a 64 Mb chip should be higher than for a 16Mb chip. Not 4x higher, but higher. Which is dropping, cost per chip (problem), or cost per megabyte (normal)?

>>Thus fewer chips yield more MB; and fewer TER testers are required. And once
the migration to 64Mb is complete, guess how many testers will be required for the
128Mb and 256Mb generations.<<

Not necessarily true. Physical considerations place limits on just how fast you can test a memory cell. Therefore, larger arrays take longer to test. I don't know if it's one-for-one, though: I don't know if a 64Mb chip takes 4 times as long as a 16 Mb chip. It could take longer, since I think the smaller features require longer settle times.

>>Then as the shrinks, reduce the silicon real estate required to produce those chips,
guess how much extra process equipment is required to process fewer wafers.<<

This is correct, as 1998 showed.

Katherine



To: Ian@SI who wrote (29832)4/29/1999 10:45:00 PM
From: JRobinson  Respond to of 70976
 
>>One thing about Rick Whittington, he called the top accurately long before any one else even remembered that this is still a cyclical sector.<<

Reminds me of something I read in Michael Murphy's book..... " the top is in place in the semiconductor sector when the first analyst comments that the sector may no longer be cyclical .." :)



To: Ian@SI who wrote (29832)4/30/1999 8:36:00 AM
From: w0z  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 70976
 
Some analysts will be right and some will be wrong. It's up to us to discern the difference. Soundview does not have a particularly good track record IMHO (Whittington included). Here's another opinion:

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