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To: O'Hara who wrote (36360)	4/30/1999 3:44:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

How do you norm for the fact that kids didn't go to school as long as they do now? Kids quit at about 14 to take on grownup jobs with grownup responsibilities- and a LOT started even earlier. If you are working 12 hours a day so you don't starve you don't have much time to shoot anyone. You can't norm for that- and I don't think most people want to put their kids to work at 12, 13 or 14 in order to avoid the kind of excesses due to boredom and frustration we see in schools across the country.

To: O'Hara who wrote (36360)	5/1/1999 8:10:00 AM
From: Dayuhan	Respond to of 108807

ISSUE To consider whether or not gun control laws in the good old US of A has had any effect at all on the rate of murders committed by school-aged children. Or do you think we even need a formal comparison study at all? Trying to draw any conclusion from comparison between these two factors is utterly useless because, as X has repeatedly pointed out, you are arbitrarily excluding relevant parameters. It seems they don't teach logic in bible schools. They probably think it a tool of dat ol' debbil, like original thought.

To: O'Hara who wrote (36360)	5/2/1999 10:08:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Shalom, several people here have pointed out the utter pointlessness of comparing American gun statistics from the 1960's and today, so I don't feel the need to restate them. On what Jesus' position would most likely be, my perception of his message is that it was one of nonviolence. Remember "thou shalt not kill?" I would think he would be utterly dismayed that children are killing each other with assault weapons over grudges that children in earlier decades in America outgrew because they didn't have the same access to assault weapons that they do today. If you are implying that he would have another position on this issue, I suspect that I think more of him than you do, which is certainly a strange position for me to be in, since he is more your guy than he is mine. I do, however, respect his teachings. Do you?