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To: Mama Bear who wrote (233)4/30/1999 9:37:00 PM
From: Angel D  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 302
 
Hey Mama! Wha's happen'n?

I read this thread to get some insight into the world of penney stocks. Not that I care but, it seems, I own a few penny stocks(not by choice <G>.) There has been a lot of really great info posted here.

I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Ellen, it's not so much the message as the way that it is presented.

There have been a lot of peronal attacks, against Ellen and me and others. Since you seem to be an RMIL follower, you need not go back very many posts to see where T L Watson has called me stupid, literally. (I don't wish to get into a "posting" contest with you, as you know that it's true.)

You know, most people don't like to be called stupid. However, this is what seems to come from those who think they know it all. However, it only infuriates the recipients. Wouldn't it bug you?

Y'know, I really respect Janice. (Aside from that, I'm sure she loves me, but can't make her feelings known publically <G>) However, the way that she and her friends take this "heavy-handed" attitude only serves to make me want to combat with them.

Isn't this pretty stupid? They try to help, but they only serve to make the recipients more resolved in "their fight". Maybe they need to "lighten up". Maybe they need to show that they are also human. I'm sure they are. :)

Best regards,

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To: Mama Bear who wrote (233)5/1/1999 2:07:00 PM
From: Ellen  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 302
 
Barb,

Why is it that you obviously haven't understood anything I've posted? It really was stated quite clearly, so I don't see why you would have so much difficulty in grasping the meaning. But you've completely missed it. Is this due to a bias? Did you just skim over the posts? Or what?

In a previous post, you had said:

> I'd be shocked to find out that you haven't been the victim of such a pump and dump scheme, and one which they posted about. <

Get ready to be shocked then, because I haven't lost money on one which they posted about. The only one I've had money in that they posted about was AZNT. And I only had that stock for a couple of weeks and sold at a profit. I agree with them on AZNT. I think it's a loser too.

In a previous post, you had said:

> Do you understand that I see someone who lost a lot of money in a stock that got halted, and you're taking it out on the people who warned you that it would happen? <

Can't imagine how or why that is what you see. Janice & group were nowhere around RMIL until fairly recently - long after the halt and long after people's money was lost. As far as uncovering scams, they missed that one because they were nowhere around on that one until long after it was known to be a scam. So you see, any "disagreement" with them has NOTHING to do with RMIL having been a scam. Is that clear enough?

#reply-9253139 was also clear.

You have also said:

> the thing that your missing is that posting negative information about a company is not a personal attack, <

No, I haven't missed that. Not at all. And my reply to that basically was and still is DUH!

Again, refer to #reply-9253139

I think that's clear. It still seems to be obtuse to you, but it IS clear.

This is so typical. You said:

> I have never seen one of the personal attacks you claim to exist. I base my belief on a good sampling of the posts. I have seen you post the type of post you accuse Janice of, and claim to deplore. This weakens your claims significantly. Perhaps you'd like to present some evidence to back up your assertions.

How is it that you "see" posts of that type from those who "oppose" her/them but you don't "see" them from her & group? How is that Barb? Do you read the posts those are responses to? Is it not <gasp> possible one of them simply didn't like what was said or didn't like being questioned on what they said and made a dig or insult (most likely calling the "dissenter" a moron, their favorite word), and the post is a response "in kind" or a "defense" of some sort?

Is that possible Barb? How is it that you see only from one side? Do you ever R E A D THEIR responses?

And I posted a question about debentures on a thread (TLC's "How to do Due Diligence..." thread) and, all of sudden, there appeared Janice with a dig at me. My question had nothing to do with her. My question had nothing to do with a stock she is "going after." She hadn't even been on that thread. So what's up with that Barb? Can you explain that?

But you know what? I will repeat it, that I really don't care if you see it or believe it or not. It's not a requirement that you "see it" or that you "be convinced" for it to be so - that they harass and insult. If it isn't clear to you I really don't know what the heck you're reading (or not), but, again, it's not a requirement that you be convinced.

And as far as this gem:

> I really would recommend getting over RMIL. You can deny it all you want, but your obsession is clear to anyone who reads your posts. >

I'm not the one "obsessed" with RMIL. And, it should be noted, that in yours and my discussion here, YOU are the one who brought up RMIL. I didn't. I have long ago "gotten over it." It is THEY who keep bringing that subject up. God, what ARE you reading? It is THEY who have repeatedly done so, for over a year. I guess, as an example, you haven't been reading that thread about the BW suit. Who brought it up there Barb? (Here's a hint: Jeff Mitchell)

Now I won't be surprised if you again come back with a "but I see"...or a "I don't believe..." or whatever. To that I say in advance re-read what I've posted here on this thread. Really read it. It's perfectly clear. And if you still don't get it, well, that's just too bad and it doesn't really matter if you get it. Nothing is changed if you don't get it.

P.S. Did you READ this: #reply-9236920
May I suggest you go to the Flame Thread (#Subject-15588), get some pointers from the pros on how to harass and insult people, and y'all come back real soon now and try again?

- Jeff


You think they don't do it...??

Whatever.