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To: Chuzzlewit who wrote (36619)	5/2/1999 2:32:00 PM
From: Edwarda	Respond to of 108807

I have not been ignoring you, Chuzz; I am thinking very carefully. Meanwhile, have you been giving careful thought to this response on Welcome to SI? Graystone is making some important points here. Message 9272437

To: Chuzzlewit who wrote (36619)	5/2/1999 2:52:00 PM
From: Edwarda	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Chuzz, as Graystone points out, SI is a forum and a community. This is more than an issue of editorial control; it is a question of how a community polices itself. SI could use the loose wording of the terms of use to give the boot to everyone who posts something abusive or offensive and the content of Thread Morons would drop dramatically. The question, what do we do with those who offend us, even offend us deeply? Who sets the standard? You can duck by replying SI, but do you really want to hand that responsibility over to SI Bob? No one could read that much, it would kill him to try. We could have tighter terms of use setting the standards, but it strikes me that we would run into a permutation of the spambot problem quite readily. I think you would agree that behaviors entirely appropriate on some threads are totally out of place on others. (Consider Insults or Beltane.) Once again, I take us back to the notion of a voluntary community. What is a community to do with the offensive, even the dangerous? Expulsion is a quick fix, assuming we can agree on the standards and conditions, but can we? There are people at SI who still miss John Galt, who mourn Lisa; there are others who were revolted by them. I think that we have to consider other ways of dealing with the offensive and hurtful to disempower them. Giving fingertips a rest for a few minutes and thinking....

To: Chuzzlewit who wrote (36619)	5/2/1999 6:29:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

> From my perspective the real issue is why SI feels that EE's presence adds any value at all.< This is so cynical I hope it isn't true. But here goes. EE generates a great deal of message traffic. Message traffic is SI's primary metric of value. Content or quality of content is irrelevant. Like I said - I doubt this is true. I met the founders of SI - and they were decent folks. So I can't imagine them being so mercenary. But I can't entirely dismiss it either - and it is the most obvious "valuation model" I can think up.