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To: lorrie coey who wrote (45029)5/2/1999 7:27:00 PM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
What an absolute load of festering crap. You've outdone yourself this time. JLA



To: lorrie coey who wrote (45029)5/3/1999 12:05:00 AM
From: Bob Lao-Tse  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
Sorry Lorrie, but you're wrong. Repeatedly.

No, you didn't say that women could do better, you simply imply it over and over and over and...

"...and what's a "common feminist"?"

From my line "common feminist view, wherein common is clearly an adjective modifying "view" and not "feminist." Since I still have no reason to believe that you are stupid or ignorant, but are rather just under the sway of some serious neurosis, I think that you knew this and simply created a straw man (woman? person?) argument to suit your wishes.

As for your "translation" you don't know me and you obviously don't understand me. For openers, I was born in 1963 (before the women's movement took off in earnest) and yet I grew up in a household where my mother worked as an accountant (not a bookkeeper mind you) and my father (though perfectly able-bodied) stayed home and took care of the kids. I don't believe in any of the traditional macho crap that your "translation" charges because it's contrary to my own experiences. My only point is that, as you do in the end of your post, feminists often make the charge that women somehow interact with the world in a fundamentally different manner from men, solely by dint of their genetic makeup ("Women are geneticly in opposition to the male prime directive, which is all about territorial reptilian instincts and blood lust...") I think this is untenable. I simply believe that the traits that are "in opposition to... territorial reptilian instincts and blood lust" are not a result of two X's, but are a result of powerlessness. I think that, as women gain power, they have already and will continue to exhibit more and more "territorial reptilian instincts and blood lust." And that's really fine. Not that we need more blood lust, but you've got just as much right to it as we do, and frankly there are a lot of men (myself included) who refuse to play those games, so if you want to, help yourself. Just don't turn around and try to tell me how bad I am.