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To: Raymond2 who wrote (5479)5/2/1999 8:05:00 PM
From: Clement  Respond to of 6467
 
Raymond2,

If you're attempting to take the moral highroad in this issue, it's a little late for that.

You state:
> Why do you get defensive and bring up TT again?
> you still don't get the point. This co. (trooper)
> has to live off of its own destiny.

Actually I do get the point but the problem is you responded to Gary S's post.

Gary S's original message that you replied to stated:
> waiting to happen? hahahahahahah I believe it has
> already happened for a whole lot of people...
> nice to see you have a little hope left for
> this company. hahahahaha
> have a nice evening
> Gary

Your response was of Trooper -- on the Thermo Tech thread.

> Yes I would buy Trooper stock (BTW you don't
> know if I contemplated buying) if it looked
> like a good investment-currently it doesn't.
> attacking me personally is a poor choice- you
> are a bad spokesman or ally of Trooper if
> attacking posters is your game.

First off, Trooper is neither my friend nor enemy. Trooper is a company whose shares are traded on the VSE. I aspire to be neither a "spokesman or ally" of Trooper, I speak for myself and the investments I make are my own. What does bother me however is when Thermo Tech shareholders make ill-informed comments of Trooper.

I would point out that the "release" was handled poorly by Trooper given that it was more a disclosure document than a release as it was not widely disseminated.

I believe as much in what "the market" is saying and in technical investing as I believe in the toothfairy. (I do not.)

> Yes the volume is important - lack of it is a very bad sign.

Not given that the release was not (a) widely disseminated, and (b) it was vague on a few key issues. As to a "communication" problem, I fully agree, but I also believe that as soon as they begin to implement their new business plan, this area will be clarified as they did so as they were "clear" prior to the lawsuit with Thermo Tech.

As to why I referred to Thermo Tech, I could not get past the irony of your comments on the Thermo Tech thread as a shareholder of this stock which has shown itself to be highly traded, heavily promoted, with warning signs a plenty prior to its dramatic plummet. It was far from an attempt to deflect Trooper's responsibility to creating operations.

If anything you should have learned by now that the market doesn't necessarily know a whole lot -- and I used Thermo Tech as the example given that it is the Thermo Tech thread and you are a shareholder of the company.

In your last post you went on with your logic, to state:
> I will stay clear of Trooper stock until they
> have a minimum of 3 or 4 plants running at a clear profit.

Again this opinion would be of little relevance to Thermo Tech shareholders and the response you made was to Gary S who may or may not be a Trooper shareholder, that as you should note, did not indicate either way.

And I would also go further and state: given that you are a Thermo Tech shareholder, your logic is odd. You counsel people to avoid Trooper until such conditions are met even though you own Thermo Tech despite racking up rather large losses, with plants that may or may not be running at profits.

Curious to say the least,
Clement



To: Raymond2 who wrote (5479)5/3/1999 3:10:00 PM
From: Clement  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6467
 
As of May 3, 1999, approx 1.20 pm; 221,077,035 shares o/s. eom.

Dave/Toastman on Yahoo felt that it was a disservice on the Unauthorized TTRIF Infocenter to merely state the dilution without stating what the money was used for.

I wonder what it is being used for. Kevin Simpson and their crew were to have taken over Thermo Tech this past Saturday. This dilution was to have stopped with the change in power.

On April 27th there were 211,392,035 shares outstanding. It seems puzzling that Peter Van Arnhem claims the money will be used to buy back shares of the company given that so much dilution has taken place to "pay suppliers, purchase assets" when if they waited only a few weeks, they wouldn't have to sell into their depressed market.

Quite curious.
Clement