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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bob Lao-Tse who wrote (45473)	5/4/1999 4:55:00 AM
From: JBL	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

Lorrie doesn't hate men. I remember her saying she was full of admiration for the Appache pilots...

To: Bob Lao-Tse who wrote (45473)	5/4/1999 9:12:00 AM
From: greenspirit	Respond to of 67261

Bob, it sounds like she is suffering from the 35 year old working woman trama. My biological clock is ticking, I really want children, but I can't find a decent man! So instead of looking within for the answer. she has instead elected to blame the entire species known as male. :-) As Clinton would say....I feel her pain... Let go of the bigotry Lorrie, I'm sure there is a decent Clinton loving he/she man out there for you. As a matter of fact, I saw a few on the Aly Mcbee show last night. :-) Michael

To: Bob Lao-Tse who wrote (45473)	5/4/1999 12:31:00 PM
From: lorrie coey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

BobLao, BobLao, BobLao... I do appreciate your effort at communication in such sincere terms...which already elevates you above the "mean". Now, I really resent...[that's too strong]..."dislike" the fact that "men" need to hear my "10% disclaimer". I hear you saying that you feel personally attacked by my opinions... I speak in generalities and hyperbole...in this forum. Take a look at the company here...much misogyny. However, on occasion, somebody will speak up and say, "That's not me and it hurts me that I have no chance of being seen as an Individual by you." Now look at your paragraph... "I don't believe that women are powerless; I believe that such traditionally (and admittedly stereotypically) feminine traits as, oh say, compassion, acceptance, and mutual support are most common among those who have the least power. Regardless of gender, as the amount of power that one has and wields increases, the amount of compassion that one has and gives declines. That's all. Why is that? I believe you are right, to a point-then you are miserably inaccurate. I think it may be a question of Chicken/Egg. The reason I "fixate" on the various and ever-present iterations of the male genitalia is to illustrate my point. Our species has built a "civilization" around the idea of "wielding" Just look at language. I won't bore you with my hobby...exposing the farcical nature of the "male power structure"...It'll suffice to say that Women cooperate and "men" compete. This was a GOOD thing...for a long, long time...we needed to compete. We need to cooperate now, if we are to survive. "I recognize that there are bad men out there, but your blanket condemnation of the entire gender is obviously flawed. And it leads you to assume that men hold the same disdain for women that you seem to hold for men. In my own insecure egocentric case, you are wrong." I think I'm right. Look at j'laylla's posts...my poster-boy! "So far you have managed to misinterpret and misrepresent virtually everything that I have said on this subject. I don't think that this is a deliberate thing on your part; I think you just can't help it." "...just can't help it."? There's an example of not wanting accept the fact that I deliberately and unilaterally decided a long time ago, that I would not accept "male societies" plan for my body, my identity as a Woman and my Life Liberty and pursuit of Happiness. I don't want to label you negatively if it's not warranted...and the fact that you had the Humility to be so earnest shows that you're not so "egocentric"....