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To: Yaacov who wrote (6779)5/5/1999 10:20:00 AM
From: George Papadopoulos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
Yaacov we seem to agree a little more lately, and that frankly scares me<g>

> The only leader with the clear idea is Milosovic. He has achieved his goals and he may get by with it!

I agree.

> it is not NATO that has missed the target, it is the poliical leadership.

I agree.

> It is the political leadership that has no will to fight. US is led by a coward that burnt his own draft card and became a road scolar
rather than serv his own country!! That speaks for itself.

YES, I agree AGAIN. You may win a choochoobee if you keep this up!<g>

> BTW, there has been some ethnic cleansing in Vojodina against the Hungerians. Brace yourself for the next round!

I knew it, no choochoobee for you...As far as ethnic cleansing of the Hungarians, that is a bunch of crap and you know it...the only explanation I can find is that, at some point of your life, a Serb did something very awful to you and you hate them with a passion for that.

> Anpother Apache crashed in Albania on a training mission! The second one that crahes without seeing combat! What will happen when
they are sent ot comabt?

2 out of 24 down without seeing action. What will happen when they are sent to combat? Can you spell bodybags? I feel so sad about the families of the two servicemen, what did their children die for? For what?????



To: Yaacov who wrote (6779)5/5/1999 11:14:00 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
Buongiorno Yaacov,

You said:
Now, we can criticize NATO in Dutch, German, and French on this thread, but it is not NATO that has missed the target, it is the poliical leadership.

It is the political leadership that has no will to fight. US is led by a coward that burnt his own draft card and became a road scolar rather than serv his own country!! That speaks for itself.

Out of 10000 sorties flown by NATO, the total war casualty is kept to minimum and yet NATO has to go on the podium, every day, to explain to the world why a bus was hit by accident! Why don't they ask Milosevic why his "Snega" is committing mass murder in Kosovo?


I don't agree on where you put the cowardice tag: Clinton is in no way a coward! If NATO depended on the U.S. executive solely then we'd be in for the ground war already. The problem is that NATO, although headed by an American Supreme Cdr., is still a Euro-American collegiate body: the U.S. do have some veto/executive privilege when it comes to launching nuclear missiles (remember the Cruise/Pershing crisis in the 1980s) but they can't neglect their European ''partners'' in changing the initial strategy! The US would have found themselves totally isolated in their Utopian attempt to set up an independent, Serb-free Kosovo. So, the question would have been: Are the US ready to support a second ''Israel'' in the heart of Europe?? That is a country sheltering a populace whose religion and customs are different from its neighbours. The remaining Serbia would look like the shaky kingdom of Jordan, Greece would look more like Syria, Russia would have the same geopolitical and religious clout as Saudi Arabia has toward other Muslim countries.
Finally, Western European countries would have realized that Europe's higher interests diverge radically from the US's: indeed, Europe has no interest in fostering a Muslim bastion between Venice and Athens... The breakup of NATO would have been inevitable, leading to a properly European Defence Organization.

That's the whole picture!