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To: Mr.Fun who wrote (11244)5/6/1999 6:00:00 PM
From: Peppe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18016
 
Believe it or not, if it weren't for takeover speculation NN would be under $20. Good news: in the game of telecommunications equipment ATM musical chairs, NN is the last chair left with at least 4 players circling. When the music stops,someone will sit in the last chair, no matter how rickety it is.

Well put. I thought your post was dead on. One more thought, as I read through this thread: Terry Matthews is lobbying the government to reduce taxes on options granted to employees to attract and retain talent. I feel for the NN engineers who have been laboring in Kanata for years watching their peers at CSCO and ASND make MILLIONS while their own options aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

Building shareholder value and meeting wall streets expectations (which were set by NN execs, BTW) is critical not only for us poor investors, but also for employee morale.

I know the bulls keep saying to look forward, not back, but to them I say, "Those who don't learn from the mistakes made in the past are destined to repeat them !!"

Ciao,

Peppe



To: Mr.Fun who wrote (11244)5/6/1999 9:43:00 PM
From: S. Peterkin  Respond to of 18016
 
"7) Product diversity - With only one product driving growth..."

For the new folks on the block (that's me) can you explain
how the new product line to be introduced in the coming months
fits in here. Will there be more product diversity or just
about the same.

Thanks

Scott



To: Mr.Fun who wrote (11244)5/6/1999 10:29:00 PM
From: pat mudge  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18016
 
1) Revenue recognition policy - LU/ASND and CSCO do not recognize carrier switch revenue until it has been installed and accepted by a customer, typically more than a month after the equipment shows up on the customer's dock. This conservative policy gives those companies exceptional visibility and protects them from just the sort of fiasco that hit NN this quarter.

Are you certain that's Lucent's policy or are you referring to Ascend on its own? If it's just Ascend and Cisco who follow this practice, I'm wondering if they've chosen this route because so many products have to be sent back or tweaked before they work. Otherwise I don't see any reason to wait until installation to book the sale.

2) Customer contracts/relationships - If it is in fact true that customers held up orders until April as a tactic in price negotiations, this is a big problem that no other vendor seems to have and could explain why NN's gross margins have been falling. There appears to be no other explanation for 2/3s of orders coming in April - it certainly doesn't correspond to a carrier budget cycle or any other explanation. There is something wrong in sales force incentives and strategies that needs to be changed if quarters are this backend loaded.

Alan mentioned the need to improve sales force incentives. The rest of your comments are conjecture

3) Manufacturing and supply chain problems are notoriously difficult to fix. Given the interrelated nature of sales, order entry, purchasing, manufacturing, inventory management, logistics, billing, etc. the effects of process changes can ripple throughout the organization. That is why ERP systems take 3 or 4 years to implement. Do not expect this to take 2 quarters to fix.

I'm interested in the fact that supply chain solutions take 3 or 4 years to implement. Could you give me some examples? I can't imagine anyone buying such a solution knowing they'd have to wait through half a dozen sales cycles before it worked. Perhaps you've confused the time it takes to solve a silicon chip flaw with supply chain difficulties.

4) The description of how the Mainstreet 36170 is customized at the end of the manufacturing process is scary. Everyone else builds them directly to order and manages the design change process very closely. This could be an issue in the manufacturability of the basic design - another excruciating problem to fix.

I believe they said there were too many variables over-all and some changes would be made to make customization more efficient.

5) Forecasting - close attention to sales forecasting should have rooted out this problem much earlier. Poor forecasting also plays havoc with suppliers, causing inventory overstocks and stockouts that screw up COGS and lengthen manufacturing lead times.

You're stating the obvious. I don't know of any problem that in retrospect shouldn't have been rooted out earlier.

6) Manufacturing leadtimes - In a market where competition between service providers is fierce and demand is skyrocketing, failure to meet agreed delivery dates is a serious problem that can lead to lost orders in the future. Ask Ericsson which just lost a $1billion wireless contract at least partly because of a poor record of delivering on time.

Alan stated on the conference call no one was unhappy. Twelve-midnight was an arbitrary date and I was told today $50 million of the $115 has been shipped. As for disappointing carriers, I believe you should address this problem to Cisco.

7) Product diversity - With only one product driving growth there is a significantly higher risk of a blown quarter, even if the general state of demand is good. The street rewards stability and punishes extreme volatility.

You're right about stability but not about diversity. NN has plenty of the latter. Even a cursory glance at the listings on their website would bring you up to speed.

Believe it or not, if it weren't for takeover speculation NN would be under $20. Good news: in the game of telecommunications equipment ATM musical chairs, NN is the last chair left with at least 4 players circling. When the music stops, someone will sit in the last chair, no matter how rickety it is.

I don't know how you can be so certain the current strength is based on buyout speculation. More likely it's based on the size of orders, the fact that BEL is its third largest customer, that Ascend's ATM growth is extremely low, and the recent announcement that Cisco has cancelled its ATM core products. With NN's ATM growing 35% (50% for the 36170) and Ascend's growing 2 to 3% and Cisco out of the running, there's a lot more than buyout speculation holding the stock up.

As for your musical chairs metaphor, if NN's the last player in the core ATM space, why wouldn't that be a plus? Considering the fact there are carriers from one side of the globe to the other clamoring for the technology --- and some fairly impressive RBOCs indicating they prefer NN's solutions --- they're in an envious position.

Yes, NN has some challenges on the production front over the next one or two quarters, but if you have to disappoint, there are worse ways to do it than having a surfeit of orders.

Back to you ---

Pat