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To: KYA27 who wrote (25056)5/6/1999 6:39:00 PM
From: KYA27  Respond to of 77400
 
Cisco now says its MGX 8850 edge switch, which scales from 1.2G bit/sec to
45G bit/sec, can slide into the core. Indeed, Cisco customer Sprint always
intended to use the MGX 8850 as its core switch for the ION network, a Sprint
spokesman says.

But it is still unclear whether the MGX 8850 is a tactical or strategic platform
for the core.

Cisco competitors say it is a limited tactical solution. At 1.2G bit/sec, the MGX
8850 currently lacks the horsepower for edge duty, let alone core. They say by
the time the MGX 8850
scales to 45G bit/sec - which they believe to be in mid-2000 - it will have
already been surpassed by other products.

Cisco's strategic IP/ATM switch for the WAN core, competitors say, is a 120G
to 190G bit/sec platform under development,
code-named Jupiter. They expect Jupiter to ship in late 2000.

There's also always the possibility that Cisco could acquire its way back into
the WAN core by snapping up one of the gigabit/terabit router
start-ups. Juniper and Avici may be hands-off,given that several Cisco rivals
have equity stakes in Juniper, and Nortel owns 20% of Avici.

But acquiring a router start-up at this stage would be a humbling experience for
Cisco, observers say. It would signal that the $4 billion StrataCom acquisition
did not pan out; and that
Cisco, the worldwide leader in routers, did not have the wherewithal to develop
a high-speed switching router for the WAN core - that "marries" IP and ATM -
in a timely fashion.

Whether Cisco acquires or Jupiter emerges, analysts say Cisco to date has been
sending mixed messages to the market regarding its
strategic technology for the WAN core, IP packets or ATM cells. Though Cisco
claims to be "technology agnostic" - having no preference of one over another as
long as they offer whatever the customer wants - the company has actually been
downplaying the significance of ATM in next-generation data optimized
networks.

"Without a core switch, Cisco is going to continue to try and marginalize ATM,
except at the edge," says Craig Johnson of The PITA Group in Portland, Ore.
"It's to their advantage to do such a thing and to say that routers are where the
intelligence is."

"Cisco is still schizophrenic with regard to ATM and routing," says Tom Nolle,
president of consultancy CIMI Corp. in Voorhees, N.J. "The strategies that
they're talking about are not
consistent with their product positions. The service providers are suspicious of
people who they think are maybe talking out of both sides of their mouth."

Indeed, Cisco is stating three different reasons for killing the TGX 8750, one of
which is slow demand for OC-48 ATM in the WAN core, an assertion Cisco
competitors and analysts say is
ridiculous.

"I don't agree with that," says Vertical's Cochran. "Certainly demand hasn't
decreased from a year ago; if anything, it's increased."

Cisco itself has underscored the OC-48 packet-over-SONET features of its
12000 GSR router as key to the product's selection by
service providers Frontier, France Telecom, IXC, Swisscom and Enron...(cont)



To: KYA27 who wrote (25056)5/6/1999 6:40:00 PM
From: KYA27  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 77400
 
Another reason Cisco gave for discontinuing the TGX 8750 is that it could
not build a single product at price points that both enterprises and service
providers expect. As a result, Cisco
"bifurcated" TGX 8750 resources among the MGX 8850 and the Catalyst
8540 enterprise campus switch router.

And Cisco's third reason, according to sources, is that the 20G bit/sec
TGX 8750 no longer makes sense for the core when the MGX 8850 scales
to 45G bit/sec.

Observers say Cisco's three different explanations for the demise of its
core IP/ATM switch indicates that the company's WAN
switching strategy is just as scattershot-even three years after the
StrataCom acquisition. This, along with the release of only one new WAN
platform in three years and the apparent loss of frame relay market share,
signals that Cisco has so far benefited little from StrataCom, and vice
versa.

The only apparent gain from StrataCom is that Cisco bought its way into
the AT&T and Worldcom public frame relay networks.

"They've renamed a bunch of products but I haven't seen much more than
that," says Bob Bellman, president of BrookTrail Research in
Natick, Mass. "Nothing exciting, anyway."

So with a key piece of its WAN switching strategy missing, and another
significantly delayed, Cisco's WAN switching vision is a blur. The
company must regain its sight quickly because competitors like
Ascend/Lucent, Newbridge and Nortel can make significant gains in the
time it could take Cisco to develop -
or acquire - and ship competitive products.

"The real question is, where is Cisco in core ATM," says PITA Group's
Johnson.

Says a Cisco competitor, "Remember the theme 'Married: IP+ATM'?
Looks like divorce papers have been issued by the lawyers of
Cisco's routing group and StrataCom's switching group!"