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To: jbe who wrote (36868)	5/6/1999 6:46:00 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I don't suppose that Andy of Mayberry or the Anderson family of the 50s were any more real than Friends or Party of Five in the 90s. (I at first hesitated to write this because I don't watch much TV either so am not really qualified to draw these conclusions. On the other hand, this is not a term paper, so nihil can't grade me) I do think that the shows are responsive to the same basic longings of their audiences and that we all share these needs no matter what the year. If you look beyond the current popular form, arent' they all about an answer to loneliness and isolation? They still in some way rely on an insular and supportive group (a "family", by whatever definition) and they are often about loyalty and acceptance and forgiveness--- from Archie Bunker to Drew Carey. Surficially, they may seem very different- but perhaps being Laura Petrie or June Cleaver wasn't exactly healthy either. I thought the movie Pleasantville did a nice job of showing the emptiness possible in both viewpoints. I guess I'm wondering if the ending of Tim Allen's Home Improvement is really such a monumental societal statement as this article purported it to be. Might it not be just time for a style change? Are the values so completely gone? (well- I must admit I thought SOuthpark, the one time I watched it with the boys, was AWFUL) This really doesn't address Edwarda's taking the question a step further into the net and communication. Well, next post.

To: jbe who wrote (36868)	5/6/1999 7:34:00 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

But I must take some exception to it. I would hope so! That's what makes a discussion. (As is said of partnerships: if partners always agree, one of them is unnecessary.) TV and cartooning are totally different. I was talking about TV -- mass media. It is targeted at a large number of people. Doonesbury was political cartooning, a very different thing. Also, TV reflects the combined work of a large number of people. A political cartoon is the creative work of one person (occasionally helped by assistants to draw or fill in, but basically one person.) I don't necessarily disagree with you, but the article Edwarda put up for discussion was specifically about sitcoms. I responded to that; you didn't. So our messages really passed each other without even saying hello! <g>